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When did Osama bin Laden die? Let's see who knows their facts, and who has been conned by the the US propaganda media and the shills on this site.

15 December 2001
16 December 2001
26 December 2001
I'm an idiot and believed the US propaganda machine

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Submitted by : Coldcircuit
Submitted on : Jul 09,2006 10:57:45 pm
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When did Osama bin Laden die?


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I couldn't care less, he's a murderer, and he will pay for his crimes in this life or the next.
1) The Taliban said he died
2) A funeral notice was issued,and his obituary was published.
3) Donald Rumsfeld said in April 2002 he had not heard of bin Laden since December 2001
4) The video tapes are obviously faked - why fake them if the real person is alive?
5) Osama's constant need for hospital treatment makes the hiding in the caves propaganda a non-starter. He was too sick to go on the run

According to the Pakistani press, and the Egyptian newspaper, al-Wafd, (Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633) Bin Laden died in December 2001 of pulmonary complications incident to catastrophic kidney failure, in the absence of available hygienic dialysis.

The Egyptian newspaper al-Wafd published an article dated Wednesday, December 26, 2001, (Vol 15 No 4633) describing bin Laden's funeral:
"News of Bin Laden's Death and Funeral 10 days ago
ISLAMABAD - A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa'da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. ..."

((I couldn't care less, he's a murderer, and he will pay for his crimes in this life or the next.
by Steelhamster on Jul 09, 2006 7:59pm))

Okay, a little reminder, Osama bin Laden is NOT WANTED by the FBI/CIA/Interpol as a suspect in the September 11, 2001 attacks. They could find NO EVIDENCE linking him to them.

You have to differentiate between what the US / UK media put out, and what the facts of the situation are. The facts clearly point to Osama being DEAD. Now if people want to post 'Elvis sightings' then go ahead, but the logic of the situation points overhwelmingly to the individual being dead.

The post 2001 videos are fakes, and have been blown as such.

Osama bin Laden is in fact, left handed. If you saw the FAKE confession tape, the FAKE Osama was writing with his right hand.

Take it or leave it. I'm sure the shills will be here with their amazing 24 hours 7 days on call notice to argue otherwise in the next few minutes. FiddleFaddleOnLSD will probably try his 20 karma attacks in just ten minutes on lots of comments of mine thatare totally unrelated, and he'll probably karma attack a whole lot of other people like Blackcat06 and Tank_Girl, etc... because he wants the EXCUSE to karma attack anyone who goes against the official US UK propaganda, with his usual lies and pretending that anyone who opposes the "official lies" about 9-11 must be all the same individual depite all evidence to the contrary.
No, you were given negative karma because you are a ballot spammer who fills them with repeat nonsense. You repeat things over and over as do your aliases like meteor7. Who... I saw post the EXACT same comment 8 or 9 times in a row on different ballots. You and your aliases are also fond of cutting and pasting info you find on neo-Nazi websites, something other users and myself have documented. Those are the reasons you get negative karma from other reasons. I get along just fine with seon, liberal_democrat and ken_from_dublin all of who believe the 9/11 conspiracy stuff. Seon even has me on his favorites list. So, your claim is nonsense.

And your "proof" on this is typical. Irrelevant, bogus and relying on highly dubious sources. A couple of non-mainstream news organizations. No body has ever been produced. Therefore, you cannot prove he is dead. You can't say "so and so said someone is dead" as proof. That doesn't prove anything but that this person said that.

Oh, and the Taliban said he died!?!? Wow! That is reliable. I sure don't think they may have had any ulterior motives.

Has he died? If you say that you know something, just spill the details, instead of expecting everyone to know what you're talking about!

Yeah, we're all stupid for not believing what Coldcircuit isn't saying! For fucks sake!

^ Lol, didn't realise that this was a quiz, just seeen the comments and you have spilled what you know. Ignore the above ;O)
Fiddle, calm the Karmas dude. If you think it's rubbish, just ignore it. There's no point in getting pissed about it.
I thought it was September 11, 2001. According to the patriotards in this country, he was driving one of the planes himself.
FiddleFaddleOnLSD probably thinks Jimmy Hoffa is still around and walking too. Have you had Elvis sightings, lately Fiddle? You do appear to habitually believe in dead people still walking around. Lack of evidence, or the propaganda of the US media has you well conned, doesn't it? Do you recall all those LIES about WMDs in Iraq? Wow, what was their source - the same bunch of selfserving LIARS who pretend that Osama bin Laden is still alive when everyone else knows he's LONG DEAD. His family has accepted he's DEAD, why can't you?
because they'd never fake his death, right? RIGHT? Moron.
Conned by the US propoganda media? Huh? Funny, but when the release a video of Osama holding up a current newspaper to prove he's alive, umm, I'm pretty sure they carry that in all the world's media, right? Umm, Coldcircuit, why do you call people Shills? Maybe you're the Shill? And this whole notion of controlled media in the USA is just stupid. Once again, I will point out:

We get ALL of the major news stations from around the world. I can turn on BBC, RAI, Polish news, Russian news, China news, Korean news...you name it.

Theres this thing called the internet. You know, like we're on now. The news is on there too. Right?

Then there are the major newspapers from around the world. At the newsstand down the block from me, EVERY single newspaper from ALL over the world is sold.

Are you starting to get the picutre here? NO NEWS can be controlled anymore and even China is starting to see that. Duh!

And, now lets talk about the thousands upon thousands of Americans that travel abroad and the thousands and thousands of foreign visitors to the USA. So, it would be pretty stupid and pretty much impossible for the US government to control the news, now wouldn't it?

Or, are we SO hyper-powerful that we dicate the news to the foreign media as well?

Get a grip.

1) The Taliban said he died
2) A funeral notice was issued,and his obituary was published.
3) Donald Rumsfeld said in April 2002 he had not heard of bin Laden since December 2001
4) The video tapes are obviously faked - why fake them if the real person is alive?
5) Osama's constant need for hospital treatment makes the hiding in the caves propaganda a non-starter. He was too sick to go on the run

by Coldcircuit on Jul 09, 2006 8:00pm


Oh my gosh!! Do you knwo the year?? All that blabber of yours is from 2001 and 2002. Ummm, maybe its Australia that is controlling your news? :) I mean you do know that the man has issued audio and vidoe tapes in the last few years, right? I can't believe you're falling for that bogus story that his body was brought into an Italian hospital!! Oh, but you are gullible. Yeah, sure, according to the story, the CIA brought Osama into an ITALIAN hosptial in ROME. They did this despite there being SEVERAL AMERICAN hospitals in Rome, not to mention American military installations all throughout Europe they could have brought Osama to, yet they supposedly WALKED him into an ITALIAN hospital in the middle of Rome.

Tell me, what do you think of that story about the lady that gave birth to the half human / half shark baby? Bet you believe that one too. I'm very, very worried about you.

You know, I don't know who I pity more. ColdCircuit for being a ______________, or me for wasting my time getting involved in one of its stupid ballots! I say "its" because, well.....
Have had any "Elvis sightings" as well, patch?

He's still D E A D.

(because they'd never fake his death, right?
by wideheadofknowledge on Jul 10, 2006 8:50pm)

What evidence do you have that he's alive? NONE.

What evidence is there that Osama bin Laden is dead? Lots.

What credibility do the US media and US govt have in claiming anything? Let's look at their track record; LIES about WMDs in Iraq, LIES about the FAKE Osama video with FAT-NOSED "Osama" who doesn't look anything like the Real (and now dead) Osama bin Laden, LIES about the FAKE tape-recordings which were claimed to be from Osama bin Laden but FAILED to pass any INDEPENDENT testing. Does the US media and US govt ever tell the truth? Would any sane person ever believe them after all the LIES the US govt and US media tell? Only an idiot would.

((Or, are we SO hyper-powerful that we dicate the news to the foreign media
by patch22us on Jul 10, 2006 8:59pm))

Of course, you aren't. That's why in the international non-English news media, and in many non-US English-language media, the report of Osama bin Laden's death was widely reported. But you missed it didn't you?

How long did it take for the US media to stop repeating the lies about WMDs in Iraq? They don't have much honesty do they?

Oh, how very, very convenient. So it was ONLY in NON-ENGLISH news media. So then the USA controls ALL English language media? Cool we're so, so powerful. Next.
Have had any "Elvis sightings" as well, patch?

He's still D E A D.
by Coldcircuit on Jul 11, 2006 1:13am

Hey, let me guess, and you believe the Moon is really made out of Cheese, don't you? And I bet you believe the earth is flat. So what RAG mags do you read? Apparently all of them.

patch22us, is this a love / hate relationship that you have with Osama? I know that people with very strong feelings for a person have difficulty accepting their death. Is this why you have such difficulty accepting that Osama bin Laden is dead?

That must be why you start going into hysterics about the world being flat, and the moon being made of green cheese. Why are you asking whether Coldcircuit is going to believe these things with you? Probably it's an attempt on your part to share your insanity, perhaps you are seeking emotional support to cope with the knowledge of Osama bin Laden being dead.

If you RE-read Tank_Girl's comment you may notice that she didn't say the news was not published in English-language news media, she specifically says it was reported in "NON-US English language" media. Perhaps you have the odd idea that the BBC does not use ENGLISH? Does only American english count for your purposes of being English-language? Pravda and Asia Times Online published the news of Osama bin Laden's death in English too. Do they count as "English-language" to you?

Why is it important to you that news must only be in English to be considered true? Are you that thoroughly brainwashed, or that racist and xenophobic, that you consider the reporting of news is not reliable if it's not reported in YOUR language? If news is reported in other languages, does that make facts any less true? Of course it doesn't, so why are particularly intent on dismissing all news sources except those in YOUR language, and won't accept news sources in British English either? (Well, did you or did you not completely skip Tank_Girl's mention of "non-US English language media" and reply as if she said "non-English" only? Yes you did do that! How revealing of your xenophobia and racism against not only non-English speakers, but also against anyone non-US).

Lovelynice, I have no idea what you're pratteling on about. I read your comment correctly the first time. You don't need to clarify your point again ;)

And I love how you're now trying to twist my comment Lovelynice. Something you're very good at. Won't work. We're all onto your tricks. Point is, her/your comment was:
"That's why in the international non-English news media, and in many non-US English-language media, the report of Osama bin Laden's death was widely reported. But you missed it didn't you?"


Obviously trying to bail herself (yourself) out, you dug yourself deeper in. Its so typical of one of you (you) to then come on and try to deflect the damage your ridiculous comments create for yourself, by turning it on the person who called you out. I love your comment Lovelynice in which you try to put the focus on me by asking some inane question of me/about me. Grow up. Move on. Why you all stay here is beyond me, since NO ONE has any respect for you because YOU LIE!

I should also point out, that when I have watched RAI Italian news or French News or any foreign news in a language other than English...there are sub-titles in English. So much for your ABSURD claims of media control. Keep trying.

{...So much for your ABSURD claims of media control. Keep trying.
by patch22us on Jul 12, 2006 6:38am}

I'm not claiming the international media is controlled by the US special interest groups, are you? Has Tank_Girl? Has anyone else?

Can you NAME and show by EXACT QUOTE where anyone on this ballot has made such a claim apart from your pretense that they have?

It's very revealing that you resort to strawman arguments and pretense about what other people are ALLEGED BY YOU to have said - which they did NOT in fact say - because you don't have anything real to argue with.

{I should also point out, that when I have watched RAI Italian news or French News or any foreign news in a language other than English...
by patch22us on Jul 12, 2006 6:38am}

It was YOU who made the pretense that NON-US English didn't count as English, and that NON-US English news sources didn't count as reliable news sources. I didn't claim such a thing, YOU did.

Congratulations on your ability to read subtitles, by the way.

Strange that despite this, you still ignored those news sources and pretended that any news media which is not in YOUR particualar language is not credible.

If were not a racist xenophobe, perhaps you would learn to cope with the concept that foreign languages don't make a news source any less credible.

{...because YOU LIE!
by patch22us on Jul 12, 2006 6:38am}

Can you give an exact quote then to support this unfounded accusation of yours? With the ballot number, time, date, and the quote itself? Since I have never knowingly lied on this site, or any other, this will be a very difficult (completely impossible) task for you. You have nothing except your accussation which bounces back at you, because it reveals that YOU are the liar for making a completely unsupported accusation, not I.

Thank you very much for destroying your own credibility yet again.

He faked his death to fool the tinfoil hat people. He is actually still alive, living in a secret tunnel network below Tokyo, Japan.
"He faked his death to fool the tinfoil hat people. He is actually still alive, living in a secret tunnel network below Tokyo, Japan."

by Jinn_the_Kafir

~What official tin foil hat website came up with that one Jinn, even the terminally ill man on the run in the caves of Afghanistan scenario is more believable than that nonsense!

OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD?! I THOUGHT HE WAS STILL IN HIDING!!!!!
Osama Bin Laden was last seen having sex with 2 post-op trannies in Moscow.
Voted : I'm an idiot and believed the US propaganda machine
he's still alive isn't he?
I love reading this crap. Funny how the world must have missed this news item.
Stupidest shill ballot EVER!
I thought OJ Simpson killed him too. :-)
"I love reading this crap. Funny how the world must have missed this news item.
by ClosetIguana on Mon Jun 02, 08 6:21pm"

You mean "your part" of the world, the rest of us already got the news. If you were in the Middle East at the time, you would've seen it everywhere. You should know by now that the news media in your nation works hand-in-hand with your government to lie to you; or did you not notice all the times that they've been caught redhanded at it?

May 1st, 2011
Voted : 15 December 2001
Me and the rest of the world's media have been "conned" by the U.S Propaganda machine. Which conspiracy website is responsible for your conning?
FrankNFurter

If you believe that "your part of the world" was reporting bin Laden's death in 2001 then I recommend you check yourself into a mental institution because you are starting to believe your own B.S.

16th December 2001! ha ha ha
May 1, 2011. Seal Team 6 carried out a special operations shoot and kill mission on Osama Bin Ladens compound In Islambad Pakistan. 7 people were killed including Bin laden. The man responsible for the 911 bombings of 01 and the man responsible for 650,000 deaths world wide under Al-Quedas terrorism was dead.




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