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Church of Satan, Wicca, Shinto
Jainism Confucianism Baha'i Faith Druidism Caodaism
Elian Gonzalez religious movement
(Gypsies), Rom, Roma, Romani, Rroma
Hare Krishna - ISKCON
Native American Spirituality
New Age (a.k.a. Self-spirituality, New Spirituality, etc.)
Osho ® (followers of Rajneesh)
Rom, Roma, Romani, Rroma, (Gypsies)
Santeria Elian Gonzalez religious movement
Satanism; The Church of Satan
The Creativity Movement (formerly called World Church of the Creator
......... Among hundreds of others
Taoism isn't really a religion, but a philosophy. Same with Confuscionism. Atheism isn't really a religion; it's an affirmation of one's disbelief of all religion and spiritualality.
The Baha'i faith doesn't have any retarded, evil acts in their history, like a lot of popular religions. But maybe that's because they've never had any power. Oh well, their list of goals is pretty noble.
who cares anymore
David Kelly, the murdered chemical weapons expert was of the Baha'i faith. They believe there will be a world government, don't they?
Did you study Bible web sites at College?
Jehovah's Witnesses also believe in one God only (for Guest_cec81), the only ones who don't go to war, swear, have sex before marriage, divorce (unless auldtery is commited), the only ones that are completely united in worship, the only ones that recognize that God's name is Jehovah and that it must be preached throughout the earth and the only ones that follow the complete bible in everything they do. They never comprimise God's standards for the world's or what's popular. Being a Jehovah's Witness is more than a religion, it's a way of life.
Ha ha, did anyone see that movie "The Hebrew Hammer", that movie is fucking funny/ its by the creators of "I'm Gonna Get U Sucka"
Jehovah's Witnesses haven't taken their religion 'to a bad place and use it to enslave or slaughter people and commit other atrocities'. And religion can be bad; if its leaders lower their standards to fit in more with the world and then say they follow God (or their gods) they become hypocrties and of course thier bad.
I agree with you
Jehovah Witnesses, believe in Jehovah, and that Jesus Christ is his son. You can get to Jehovah without going to Jesus first. You should always end your prayers "in the name of your son Jesus Christ Amen" They will learn hopefully one day.
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I'm a witch and proud of it. Hooray for Pagan Pride :)
If you are firm practicer of your religion of course you believe that your religion is the true one. And it does not matter how long a religion has been going for. I am a Jehovah's Witness and according to the bible the first Jehovah's witness was Abel. At Hebrews 11:4-12:1 says: By faith Abel offered God a sacrifice of greater worth than Cain ... By faith Noah, after being given divine warning of things not yet beheld, showed godly fear ... So then, because we so great a cloud of WITNESSES surrounding us," (some bible translations differ, but it means the same thing in original Greek). But the point it is does not matter how old a religion is.
God made his name (Jehovah - Psalms 83:18) known to the jews because of their forefather Abraham who was the only one righteous after the flood. And if you believe the bible all people who have died and not known God's name or his will, will get ressurrected in order for them to be preached "the good news". Any who do not come to worship Jehovah will die.
Regarding dinosaurs, the six creative days were not literal days but, in the original Hebrew context, meant a period of time. Also, the great flood mens that radiometric dating methods (those measuring geologic time by rate of radioactive decay) supposedly prove these formations are millions of years old rather than thousands. But the main point is that the bible does allow the earth and the universe to be at least millions of years old.
Immoral actions, which are sins, are not God's creation. We make the choice to commit immoral acts, it is not God's fault.
And for your final question, the purpose of life is to serve God eternally on earth (Ps 37:9,11,29). As a Jehovah's Witness I believe that some will go to heaven (Revelation 14:1-3) to "rule as kings over the earth" with Jesus Christ. (Revelation 5:10) But, as was the orginal purpose back in the garden of Eden, to live for ever on the earth and cultivate it and serve God. God does want us to enjoy his creations for all eternity.
You and my brother, frax, a so right. (I'm not just saying that because I am a Jehovah's Witness. Oops.)
One thing some religions do wrong is mix with government. This is wrong.
Mans Law, and God's Word, is totally different!
GET IT RIGHT PEOPLE!
"One Nation under God"
"God Bless America"
That is all ridiculous, first over all we are all Jehovah children (not just people in America) and who ever earns Gods blessing shall receive it.
Did anybody see the movie Head of State?
There were so many subliminal messages through out that movie it was a shame.
A white man running for president said “God Bless America and No One Else” in that movie, even though it was just a movie, some people in America truly feel that way.
Here is a question for some of you: Is there a place called Hell? and if so, is it how some people really describe it to be? I know the answer to these questions, based on what I read in my Bible.
Can anybody tell me what 144,000, and Heaven have in common?
I know that I have sinned, and some things I have wrote in the ballots I wrong for to say , because I can not judge anyone, but I am human and I do make mistakes just like everyone else. I do have God in my heart, I do know Jesus Christ, and knowing is half the battle! :) :) :)
Hey Guest_cec81 your a dick!
Hey Guest_cec81 your a dick!
Hell actually means the grave, not a place of eternal torment for the wicked. Eccl. 9:5,10 says that the living are conscious that they will die, but the dead are conscious of nothing at all.
Rev 14:1-3 says that 144 000 who have come from the earth are with Christ standing on Mount Zion (in heaven).
I'm Wiccan, but I dont thihnk it's neccessarily the "best" religon. It's what works for you personally that matters, no ne has all the answers. I hate it when people say "I believe this, and this is the only way to salvation! you are all wrong and will burn in hell! bwahahahahah" That's just stupid, when will peoeple see that not everyone sees as they do.
As such, everyone should rally behind me, and we should go and eradicate from the face of the Earth all those who disagree with me!!! AND KILLING THEM ISN'T WRONG BECAUSE THE GODDESS AND GOD ARE ON MY SIDE! HA HA HA!
and yes, that last one was just being sarcastic ;)
The sad thging is, the bible-belt type Christians arn't, they seriously do something think like that, and that's whats so damn scary!
Hey shitforbrains it is the way things are going! wake up and look around...u know it makes sense.
No monothestic belief makes sence to me... but then I dont assume my beliefs make any sence to you, I just dont insult you when you dont understand, wheras you seem to think insults help spread your version of your religion.
Its because of people like u who try twist and demonise my religion, and thats the insult u throw at us. everyone is against muslims because u dont like its way of life, it goes against ur filthy existence...drinking 24/7...tyring to make a record of how many women u can bed in ur lifetimes..and basically hating anyone who has a darker complextion than yourself..(I assume ur white because u sound like a racist.) So try to grow a brain before u put a comment up please.
Hey willow at least my religion wasnt made up.hehehehe
And what's make you so sure yours isn't? Your religion is a revelation based one, as has botht he strengths and weaknesses of that system.
Who is ur god? Harry Potter..or is it Gandalf...hehehe
Who the hell has heard of a wiccan, what is it? sounds like devil worship to me...
What's the religion where God isn't real? Oh...oh yeah, wait a minute...it's REALITY!!! Stupid Christian bitches!
The reason you havn't heard of my religion is because you never look at any one's beliefs but your own. Your mentally railroaded, unwilling or unable to see any good in anything bar your own beliefs, and so shy away from any in depth look out of them, either through fear of having to question your own beliefs and world iew, or because of simple prejudice. I don't attack your religion, I was Muslim myself once.
Judaism was not the first religion. Ohters existed previously. However, it was the first monothestic belief that existed on a significant scale.
There is no one true religion. People are different, and different ideas work for different people. Because Judaism works for you, it doesn't mean it will work for me. Because Wicca works for me doesn't mean it will work for you. If only people recognised that different things work for different people...
BTW Judaism is essentially a racist religon in that it isn't open, however that doesn't mean all Jews are racist... some are, some arn't. Nothing and no one is perfect.
I know all the answers to the questions I asked, and I knew you knew the answers too. I was wondering what someone else would say. :) :) :):) :)!!
Has anyone thought that maybe WE are the gods? That maybe we should have more faith in ourselves? That we have the power to control, to influence, provoke and expediate change. That maybe, to some small extent, we are masters of our own little universe? Why must we nit pick over the tiny trivialities that seperate the many monotheistic beliefs when they all basically come down to one little point: don't kill people. It's a pretty simple rule, really. One we should all be able to abide by. And yet, all over the world, people are killing in the name of God. Think about it for a minute. Why would God tell one group of people to kill another group of people who believe in Him in a slightly different form?
And what is this obsession with prophets? Jesus and Mohammed are prophets. Okay so Jesus seems to have a more aristocratic father. But they are not the ones to pray to or hold as martyrs or some such. Believe in your GOD.
Jesus is the Son of God, sent into this world by God, so that we may know the truth and be saved from eternal fire and pain. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, Christ Jesus, to be a witness onto us." Instead, we tortured him, humiliated him, and crucified him(there is historical proof of this, so it is true)Christianity is the most persecuted religion in the world. Christians get martyred more than any other religion. I don't see Islams risking their lives to go to other countries to evangelize to people who don't know Islam. I never see "Islam charity", if there is such a thing. All Islamic countries are third-world countries that don't even allow women to walk out of their homes.
first of all Guest_563e0 shut the hell up we dont want some retarrded history lesson taught by you to happen.. christianity is the religion that talks about the truth and that's it. go talk to ur mom about whatever the hell you want dont come posting it here because it's nonsense. u dumb jew. judaism is the fakest religion and shut up before a nazi kills you.
Guest_563e0 i forgot something else. if it wasnt for GOD u wouldnt be here (which i wish u werent) because ur dumb get the christian bible and learn the truth u retarded jew. i hope u burn in the gas chamber someday
Guest Of8d8 rocks!
coachngome, u forgot druids
Well now u probaly think i'm gonna say some shit that will piss everyone off, usually dissing the south and promoting Catholics....well... Thats exactly what i'm gonna do. I don't read the Bible, or do any of that stuff, but i just have to say, HOW THE HELL COULD ANY OF YOU SAY CHRISTIANITY IS NOT THE ONLY 1 TRUE RELIGION, i mean dude, the world is fucked up today, not just Christianity propaganda but the whole world, try to think back to the 100 A.D times, when Christianity was started for what it was really meant to do, Jesus gave his body up for us so we can all live happily then die with God forgiving us for our sins on this earth, no matter whatever the hell Religion you are, Jesus truly was the only one who was fit to be the leader of our Religion, and u will probaly question that shit, but if God wanted us to know he would tell us now, he just wants us to be a kind hearted person now like Jesus did. But just like that; man needed something more focused to follow Jesus by, so St. Peter founded the "Church" to help man get to God better, by praying through Mother Mary and all them to Get to God while we are here on this planet. That is what Christianity is all about.... i think. But man fucked it up and now it sucks ass. But u still gotta have faith in God. And somehow the south is to blame, the south sucks!
Praise be to God, Amen.
Why would I "never" change my religion? It wasn't right for me, it didn't connect me with the divine, so I found something that did. No one religoion si right for everyone, and Islam wasn't right for me. I don't see why ppl cling to the belief there is a universal answer for all humankind. Surely in the tens of thousands of year of experience of various religious practises we have learned that much?!
happy face hear,yes your right but the konichiwa religionis better....and im mexican homes
Christianity is the only religion in which you have to suffer for your faith. Name ONE other religion that tells you to suffer for other people, be nice to other people, don't knock each other down, etc. For all women out there, Christianity is freedom from sin. It tells you that things like swearing(which I am hearing a lot of) doesn't matter. And I am right in asessing that Christianity is the most persecuted religion in the world. thousands of Christians die each DAY in China, so don't get me started on that. One last thing; Jesus KNEW he had to die, he was not forced. That is why he offered no resistance to the guards who took him. If some people had actually READ the bible, they would know this stuff.
I might've missed a few points in the last paragraph, so if anyone is nice ebough they can fill me in. And lastly, if your religion tells you to be good, then lower the swearing level.
Da_Chicago_Jigalo, 5th lind down is druidism
Saddam Hussein was Islamic. What did Saddam do again? Let's see. Killed his own people with bio weapons, killed millions of people who did not believe what he believed. In Iraq, the entire country is Islamic. It just goes to show that Islams are violent people that do not live under peace. Now we go to the equal rights situation. There is no Susan B. Anthony in Iraq. The first woman to step up would be shot. That is the way Islamic countries are run. The women have no rights whatsoever. They are placed in forced marriages and sometimes are forced to sell themselves to other men for money. You call that treatment "submission to God?" sorry, pal, doesn't work. And once again, I will state the fact that Christians are killed every day in Islamic countries. It's true! Don't deny it by saying stupid things like "fuck you" and such. It's only denial. Christians do not force their religion onto other people(at least the ones who know how to minister correctly), they present a CHOICE to the individual. You can believe in God, or not. If you choose not to, that's fine, we're not shoving it down your throats. YOU choose, and if you say no, then we will say no more. We leave it to you as a rational human being to decide.(We are NOT rational because of the Big Bang or Evolution, got it?)
Wow. That's biased. And kind of pushy....
jk. if you believe in one God, Jesus Christ, who cares???
Nude churches like Naturist Church of
he was too Islamic. He supported Islamic terrorists and believed in the Islamic faith. Don't call someone a moron until you can prove yourself first.
Very interesting..!! I have just waded through all the comments.. Evidentally many people feel that they 'have to' or 'ought to' 'believe in' something.. Many people (have been caused to) believe that it's 'important' to believe in 'one God', that is, be monotheistic..
I see that it is not 'necessary' to 'believe' any particular thing..!! Belief is not knowledge, but only a poor excuse, a substitute, for knowledge..
God, if any, does not 'judge' anyone..!! God is total Understanding, and totally Compassionate as well..!! No one is 'punished', and especially, not punished 'forever', as in the nonexistent 'hell'. If consciousness happens to 'survive' death, I propose that All 'go' to 'heaven', or a 'next stage' of existence..?! Everything is of Nature, natural, but not all things are desirable, of course..
It is wise to be kind, and friendly, and happy, and intelligent, forward looking and progressive..
Scriptures of any sort are largely nonsense, no doubt.. Fanciful, unhistorical, imaginative, unreal..
God, if any, probably requires no 'worship', or 'praise'.. isn't that rather primitive?
If God is a Superconsciousness, perhaps "He" or "IT" 'desires' that we too partake of superconsciousness, intelligence, knowledge, extreme enhancement of the human condition..
Abandon the old, the primitive, the outmoded, the illogical and dogmatic-- replace the ignorant past with a clear vision of wonderful and beautiful future-- which we are already in the process of accomplishing..!!
Science, technology, medicine, intelligence, knowledge, and perhaps something called, superconsciousness..?!
ha ha it feels good to say something nice on this website
Paganism/agnosticism suits me best, IF I have to pick something. Organized religion has been used for centuries to manipulate people. I am not atheist, because I do believe there is something much greater than us, but I just don't know what it is. So I keep an open mind and believe what feels right for me inside. Christianity was forced down my throat when I was growing up, and none of it made sense or felt right. So, everyone should just believe what feels right to them and not believe something just because somebody else tells you to or some book(s) tells you to. And don't persecute others who have different beliefs than yours.
Muslims are the only people who truelly believe in God.Islam is the fastest growing religion in the World for a reason.
well, it seems that the debate is winding down and that people have nothing left to add. Well, it was cool while it lasted- and consider the people suffering for their faith so they can tell it to other people. Each religion in itself should be respected, even if they seem stupid to other people. It's hard to sway the beliefs of a person on a web site. I appreciate all of you for putting down your opinions(except for the people who added stupid choices to the ballot)
I didn't understand a word of what i_believe said...can you try that again with better spelling? Couldn't get it at all.
Christianity has a base,the bible it gives instructions to us in our daily lives. Some religions like islam,have something as well. In the koran it says to wipe out all that do not believe in islam. Islam is murder. Terroroist who kill for islam say that they will have a better "next life" There is no next life. They are going to hell
If Muslims are really "peaceful people who give money to charity", then why do they say things like "fuck off" and "moron", and such. If yo really believe in a religion that calls for peace, PROVE IT!
Neutral_Observer, I apreciate your comments. But there is a small flaw. There is such a thing as a "radical Christian," but radical Christians don't force their religion down people's throats or say "my way or the highway" speeches. Radical Christians are simply enthusiastic. "radical muslims" kill in the name of Allah, which I don't think peaceful muslims like very much. Christ said in Revelation, "You may either be cold or hot, but the lukewarm I will spit out of my mouth." That figure of speech translates into: The deepest, most painful part of hell is reserved for people who are neither against Christ nor for him. Hell isn't a place with flames and demons; It's a place where you suffer your worst nightmare over and over again for all eternity. It seems that people have gotten a misguided version of hell in itself. I have no patience for muslims unless they act accordingly to what their religion teaches them. Christians out there, please listen to me. Try to set a good example for other people by not calling people names and such. It makes Christians look like hypocrites, and we aren't. Set a good example for other people. It's how the ministry works.
And lastly, Nuetral_Observer
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I also want to thank Nuetral_Observer for the best comments yet on this list. Congratulations, and may you find your peace within.
It is not right for christianity to say that their religion is the only true way. jesus wasnt a catholic, presbetierian ect. jesus listened to god and not to his ego and emotions.this is the true way. it is what most religions teach to a greater or lesser extent , however religion is still flawed. jesus was above religion and its politics that is what made hime so great and self less. i was born into the muslim religion but even though it teaches to submit to god it also contradicts itself as it is filled with dogmas that tend to towards rigidity and intolerence for other ways. that is why i prefer eastern philosophy or hinduism. there are many simplistic aspects of hinduism but they were evolved as a stepping stone to reach higher levels of consciousness. but basically hinduism does not put itself above other religions and its ancient texts point towards the concept that like jesus we can all achieve a state of god. if one is intersted in the deeper philosophies of hinduism one should read or look at the upanishads.
It is not right for Christianity to say that their religion is the only true way. Jesus wasnt a catholic, Presbyterian ect. Jesus listened to god and not to his ego and emotions. this is the true way. it is what most religions teach to a greater or lesser extent , however religion is still flawed. Jesus was above religion and its politics that is what made him so great and self less. i was born into the Muslim religion but even though it teaches to submit to god it also contradicts itself as it is filled with dogmas that tend to towards rigidity and intolerance for other ways. that is why i prefer eastern philosophy or Hinduism. there are many simplistic aspects of Hinduism but they were evolved as a stepping stone to reach higher levels of consciousness. but basically Hinduism does not put itself above other religions and its ancient texts point towards the concept that like Jesus we can all achieve a state of god. if one is interested in the deeper philosophies of Hinduism one should read or look at the Upanishads.
whoa..sorry. i wrote 'atheist' on there because i quickly scanned over the ballot (too lazy to actually read it. heh) and didn't see 'atheism' so it's on there twice. sorry!
ah crap... I made a crappier balot just like this one... now my results for creating a supreme being... wait... right... that is that nothing I said came to be... nothing I said came to be... a... wait... I meant you didnt see this comment you didnt see this comment... By the way do jedi mind tricks work through text?
Organized religions are like a casino. They are all set up just to get your money. God set up 10 simple rules and all these organized religions break them constantly.
Maybe God dosen't really care how you worship as long you live a good life and help others.
I am the way, the truth, and the life. NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME. John 14:6. That should make more sense than some website. religion wasn't meant to deny scientific fact. It is just when science tries to overwrite religion that we get a problem.
Oh, and by the way, these are some REEEAAALLLY good comments im hearing from this Nuetral_Observer guy. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING about. and he can spell. That counts too.
Believe in what I believe or you will suffer for eternity. Sounds like religion doesnt it!
Islam is the worst, followed by Hinduism
Athiesm,its the best religion of all,the only one endorsed by jesus!
Athiest prefer to be known as free-minders because were not brain washed and we want to come up with logical answers to the universe not some god/gods/godesses shit that is illogical and the quick and easy (not to mention false) answer!
god bless athiesm!
As an Atheist, how can you ask for the blessings of a deity?
That's why you are all going to Hell.
stupid fundamentalists. Why do people care what other people think. Afterlife is a shitty dirt grave or cremation or rotting. Religon is shit.
Nazism! nazis killed innoecent people, hmmm so do americans! russians to, oh ya so did Britts, Irish, Jews,and just about every group of whiteys. You never heard of africans invading european countries have you? Whites spreaded rascim and in fact created it! damn how iam a shamed of being white!
Im ashamed of my ethnicity and I use to be christians alas people can change! YAY!
I'll go with Buddhism, since Buddhists are not fundamentalist assholes trying to preach you a bunch of hooey, and they're not out to kill members of other religions.
If you disagree with me, you are wrong
This is ridiculous. Try to make a seroius poll and I'll vote (example: Kevinism, The Religion Of Worshiping Lake Erie, Boys don't like girls, boys like tits and asses)
What a coinky-dink. We have a cult of Lake Erie worship down here in Miami!
Islam is the worst. No other religion comes close.
Please don't tell me that all of you believe Paganism ( or Wicca ) is satanism. They are two completely different things.
Fucking Wicca is not Satanism. Witches don't even believe in an evil deity, so WTF? They respect all of nature and see creation and destruction as the circle of life, and they honor it all. There's no such thing as a Satanic witch, no matter what you've heard or if some dorky idiot wannabe in your school claims to be a Satanic witch. Real Wicca professes respect for all creatures, including human beings
All these muslims who say that the west/others are materialistic etc..
Then what eaxactly did Muhammed get up to? He lusted after power, wealth,booty,women,slaves... - islam legitimised this, ligitimised prostitution.
Islam isn't spiritual, What ever became spiritual was long after Muhammads passing.
Islam isn't even spiritual.
Just a bunch of dogmas and rituals - that's all it offers.
U muslims shouldn't try to get clever on the net.
Have u visited the site?
I'm an ex-muslim, I should know what I'm taking about.
Please read it! you'll then know where all this terrorism derives from.
It's a site by ex-muslims
The_Revisionist is a muslim.
The classic Jew symtem.
Grow up, they'll always be better than muslims.
Your founder ripped of their religion - not to mention caused a jewish genocide and cleansed arabia og jews.
Wheres the statistics that Islam is the fastest growing faith?
The statistics are not reliable.
More muslims are leaving Islam than adopting it.
The so clled rise of Islam is dut to the high birth rates of muslims - Al little due to conversion (many leave later).
I mean the arabs and co are spending billions a year trying to convert the world to Islam esp the west - pity so many arabs are poor.
With out oil and Islam they are nothing.
The Quaran didn't even exist whan Muhammad was alive. It came centuaries later; it was very much edited.
Read up on modern research on the Quran.
The foundations of Islam are being destroyed.
Even some hadith mention that the quran has missing passages.
Islam is unparalleled in stupidity.
By the way, why do the saudies destroy all pre-islamic site in Saudia Aabia.
The have alot to hide; they are terrorfied that the origins of Islam will be exposed.
Just like that very old Quran that was discovered in Yemen - that is different (regardless of how small the difference in style,wording and compisition) to the modern Quran
religious nuts are the main danger to world peace
No Islam - Unparalled danger to world.
Praise be to Allah.
Here we have this Kaffir who paradoxically identifies himself as "Cantsay", who thinks he's a Scholar of Islam because he happens to frequent a website founded by Ali Sina - a proclaimed Islamic Apostate who is campaigned towards maligning and abolishing Islam under the disguise of liberation and free thought.
Make no mistake rookie, do not think for a second that your copy-and-paste arguments is going to shake the faith and beliefs of any learned Muslim or individual who participates at this website.
Hmmmm, "MoohamMAD" did you say? - I may possibly know who you are if I remember correctly - and if you are that person, then there is little room for debate with hate monger like you. You are a waste of air and space.
Do not pretend like you have studied Islam inside out, because you don't know squat - you only follow the conjecture and rhetoric of those with whom you share common opinion.
Try System of Anti-christ by charles upton,Viktor schauberger,Stanislav Grof,Zerzan,R D Laing and Adi Da up to the mid 80's on Amazon.
Guest_6b13, either you are grossly ill-informed, you are just downright ignorant. Now what makes you think that because you don't see Islamic and Jewish charities advertise on television, that apparently it means they don't exist? As a Muslim myself, I am required to pay a poor-tax of 2.5% of my earnings, and I sure do not need to do this through any televised programs.
I have even worked for Christain charities in the past, and I know exactly how much of that money really goes to those third world countries. Some of the campaigns are good, some of them are awful. Besides, you like many other people are unaware of the main underlying purpose of those Christain charities - like World Vision - which is aimed towards Christainizing Africa. When people are poor and hungry, it's easy to take advantage of them.
Now go back to your TV.
Religion is the worst creation ever. even worse that American Idol.
The only reason I disagree with Islam is because it professes hatred toward others and views women as inferior. A) all religion is bullshit, so Muslims cannot be better than any other religious psychos, and B) women are different than men but by no means inferior. Respect the gender that bore you for nine months and went through labor for twelve hours to give you life. That's that.
Jannine, Islam does not disrespect women at all. I am astounded when people think Muslims treat women as second-class citizens just because they have to wear the hijab and cover certain parts of their body. The defining feature of Islam is modesty and cleanliness; Allah would not require His believing women to guard their chasity and adornment if they were not respected - would somebody tell me that women must wear sexy and attractive clothing in order to be seen as 'liberated'?
Islam never discriminates against men or women, rather, it takes into consideration the nature of differences between the two sexes, and assesses them accordingly.
For example, in Islam, Men are supposed to be the providers and protectors of their families; for this reason, Allah gave more strength to men than women. This does not mean that women are useless, in Islam they have all the right to work and earn extra money for themselves. In Islam, 50% of the husband's earning must be given to the wife, while the husband is not entitled to any porportion of his wife's earnings. The husband has rights to his wife, and the wife has rights to her Husband.
But yes Jannine, you are correct that women deserve much respect for carrying us in their wombs for 9 nine months, and raising us. Even the Messenger of Allah bore witness to that. A companion once asked Muhammad, the Messenger of Allah considering whom he should give respect to first, He asked: 'O Apostle of God! Who is the person worthiest of my consideration?' The Prophet replied, 'Your mother.' The campanion asked again, 'And second to my mother?' The Prophet said, 'Your mother.' The companion insisted, 'And then?' The Prophet said, 'your Mother.' Then he asked for the last time, to which the Prophet responded 'Your father.'
Indeed, Allah is Most Just, Most Wise.
Personally, I have issues with most organized religion. But I can't fault the the teaching of 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, and soul & love your neighbor as yourself".
I think that is actually pretty cool. Can you imagine how much more civil we would be to each other?
"Islam never discriminates against men or women, rather, it takes into consideration the nature of differences between the two sexes, and assesses them accordingly."
This is correct and it is true that under Islam families work much better these days. Have you seen all those babies they pop out? However, Orthodox Catholics from Latin countries also have strong family units and so do Orthodox Jews. The more religion you have in your family the happier you will be.
Unfortunately Islam is a lie. Supposedly the Prophet Muhammad got his info from the angel Gabriel who got it directly from God. One problem: there are historical inaccuracies in the Qur'an (such as Mary the mother of Jesus being confused with the wife a biblical figure Aaron who lived 1000 years before Jesus). If the message of the Qur'an came from God he was drunk or stoned at the time.
Christianity has a problem in that Jesus did not fulfill all of the prophecies the Messiah was supposed to fulfill. If he is the Messiah then he will be back to rebuild another temple in Jerusalem because that is one thing clearly defined for the Messiah to do - rebuild the temple. Since the temple in Jerusalem was not even destroyed yet he made his appearance too easy to be the Messiah.
I am not Jewish but it seems to have the most truth to it. There are seven laws you must follow to be in God's favor. These are the Laws of Noah and are part of the Rainbow Covenant:
One God (Creator of Time, Heaven and Earth)
Blasphemy of God's name is forbidden (Innuendoes and insults of all types are included)
Do not murder (The act of killing for self defense at any time or during a time of war is not included in the prohibition against murder.)
Immoral sexual acts are forbidden
Sexual relations are forbidden with certain relatives. This includes a son with a mother (even if his birth was a result of rape or seduction), a daughter with a father, a son with a father, a father with a daughter or a son with his father's sister or a mother's sister. Other totally forbidden relationships include a man with another man's wife, a man with another man (homosexual relations), any person whether male or female with an animal. Lesbianism is considered an immoral and unnatural relationship (though not stated as forbidden) that destroys the order of the world. Prostitution goes under the same category (not strictly forbidden according to the law) but is outside the realm of morality and violates the spirit of the Seven Universal Laws of Noah.
Do not steal
Theft is the broadest category with the most intricacy of all Seven Laws. The prohibition of theft is equally applicable to men and women in every aspect, detail and category. Theft is punishable regardless of whether the act was secretive or public. The courts will deal with revealed, known lawbreakers. Secretive theft will ultimately be punished by the Hand of Heaven. Stealing includes any amount of money or material goods, large or small, even the insignificant. Intellectual property such as music, books, formulas, programs and photographs is owned by the copyright, trademark or patent holder. Kidnapping is a form of theft as is rape or seduction. False weights and measures, overcharging, misrepresentation and lying are all forms of stealing. A dispute or the injuring of another person carries a liability that must be paid. Trespassing is a form of theft as well as the moving of landmarks on property. The withholding of wages that come due to a worker according to agreed upon terms is a form of theft as well as the failure to return a borrowed object. Dealing in stolen property falls into this category. An insidious form of theft is pollution and environmental destruction as well as quality of life issues. This includes the damaging of air, water, sight (offensive eyesores) and sound (decibel increases). Toxic chemical and/or radioactive level increases in the environment is a form of theft and may lead to the killing and/or damaging the health and well-being of the resident population.
Do not eat the flesh of an animal while it is still alive
Creation of a judicial system and following the law
The establishment of courts of law to institute justice, truth, righteousness and morality over society is an essential institution. The primary job of the court system is to uphold the Seven Laws of Noah as well as to establish a police force and army as needed. A judge in the Noahide court system should have as much of these seven qualities as possible given the society of the day: 1) wisdom, 2) humility, 3) fear of Heaven, 4) fear of sin, 5) contempt of money, 6) love of truth and 7) beloved by his fellow men as well as an excellent reputation.
Anybody can follow these rules if they want to. This is the simplest way to a righteous life and no Jew is better than anyone who follows these laws (except that if you study the Torah all day long, as a lot of Jews do, and become intimately familiar with God's laws and teachings you will obviously have a better relationship with Him). How can it get any simpler than that? Most of this is from ThirdTemple.org.
SORRY: That was ThirdTemple.com
It doesnt matter which is the best religion as long as they honer God (or a verson of God) and help you live a better life, the message is Love.
Would it be fair to say that all muslims living in western christian countries are not true muslims, because 'hey have chosen to live in a western christian country, because of the state of thier home countries, which are all fucked up thanks to islam. You arab, muslim, islamic twats can't be serious. You immigrate by the boat load to escape the religion, then you start preaching how good it is, wtf??
QUOTE - Mandigo writes: 'Islam is a religion from the Devil himself trying to gain control over the weaker minds.' UNQUOTE
'Weaker minds' did you say!? - Islam has facilitated one of the largest and longest lasting Empires in World History. Islam prevailed as a result of courageous and ethically strong individuals. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. Bye now.
That would be a question for a different poll, Justin. Ask somewhere else.
Look at world as it is right now, Divide it into, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, and any other religion you want, now look at the economic state of the Division, You have the G8, the worlds richest and largest economies in the world; The U.S., Japan (Shinto,Buddist), Germany, France,U.K.,Italy, Canada, and now Russia, Also The EU sits in. Out of these 8 Countries, how many are muslim? Answer: None. How many Zero. Now Lets Take Muslim Countries, most if not all of them, I still haven't been able to find 2, are either in massive amounts of debt, have no womens rights, have hardly any human rights, are ruled by crazy arabs, who keep most money from oil etc for themselves while there people starve like dogs. They are at civil war most of the time. Now Apart From those facts, lets look at something else the issue of immigration, if Islam is such a great religion and the only religion that's right, Answer me why in the world do so many Muslim/Arab/Islamic people immigrate illegally to western christian countries, WHY??, Why don't christians immigrate illegally or legally to muslim countries??WHY?? After the Wars in europe nobody left for an islamic country. The truth is, either Allah does not bless his followers or he doesn't exist. do the right thing that you know in your heart; I'm just saying that since the USA was raised as a Christian nation, we have been blessed. don't try and deny that! we have everything that America wanted from the beginning. In the Bible, in 1st Kings(the description of God's prophets) It states how Elijah, the last remaining prophet, challenged 400 prophets of the statue Baal to a duel. The prophets of Baal were to pray to Baal and ask him to send fire down from heaven. Elijah, the only prophet for God, would also call on his God to send fire down from heaven. Now, each side had prepared an altar and a sacrifice. Elijah asked Baal's followers to pray first. They danced and sang and prayed and yelled all night long asking their god Baal to send fire down to burn the sacrifice. They did this until the next day, and then Elijah began to taunt them. "Shout louder!" he said. "Maybe he is asleep, or gone away, or can't hear you. SHOUT!" So the people cut themselves apart and killed their children and offeredt them to Baal; and yet there was no answer. This went on for 3 days. After the third day. Elijah told the prophets of Baal to stop. He said "come here." Elijah told them to COVER his sacrifice with water ten times. He prayed once, and fire was sent down from heaven to consume the sacrifice on the altar. ONCE! No meditation, no prayer mat, no incense, no nothing. He prayed standing, and asked God this simple prayer: "God, show yourselves onto these people today; Show them that you are the one and only true God and that your power cannot be matched." Then God sent fire from heaven. How simple is that? And no, you can't walk outside and ask God for fire from heaven. Prayers that are made selfishly will never be answered. It just shows the awesome power of God's love for his people and how he will bless those who follow his commandments.
Yeah, that'd be nice... IF ANY OF IT WERE TRUE!!! LMAO!
Religion is discounted to those who would like to use their pussy to get what they want.
The sword of truth stings but does not maim.
Look at it this way, in this day and age, Christian religions, Christian countries are far better, and far better off, its just a better way for the planet to be. Christanity is all about helping your fellow man, peave, love, all that cornball stuff, but its true a if we all followed it properly, the world would be great. Because in the west we are christians, we feel the need to help others, we fight wars to help each other out. WW1 WW2, American Revolution, We donate, give aid to foreign communties, even ones that disagree, and even hate us, I refer to the recent erathquake in Iran, and them accepting american aid, despite the fact the hate them and see america as evil. We want peace for all mankind, we accept human rights is something for all man, we respect others decision if they differ from our own, we love thy neighbour, we are trying to make the best of an insane chaotic world. But fucking muslim arab pricks, come along with thier shit, all thier countries are ruined, no human rights, they couldn't give a fuck about anyone but themselves, thats why afer 9/11 they were dancing in the streets like a bunch of raghead peasants. Your a joke muslim arab fucks, you pack up and leave your shithole countries behind because you know that islam is all bullshit, and thats why you come over by the thousands to join the western way, then you backstabbing tratior pricks, you get here and try to change it to fuck it up like you fucked up your own countries, get the fuck out with that shit. If your muslim and live in the west, you are either a gutless muslim bitch and a traitor. Or you relize islam is for suckers and have come to better your yourself
I defy any Arab/Islamic Muslim Peasant twat to answer these questions
1) If Islam is such a great and good religion, why are most if not all isliamic countries, underdeveloped, have no womans rights, hardly any humand rights, in debt, have massive humanitiarian crisis??
2) Why if islam is such a great and good religion do thousands upon thousands of islamic/arab/muslims turn up at the borders of western christian countries every day. Why Not stay where islam is???
3) Why can't you all fuck off?
Now that is hte kind of attitude that's scary... There are no certainties, smileyme, there is no sin, because there isn't really any right or wrong... so ou go off and be saved, and let me live my own life, hu?
seriously, the human species is quite funny. they have every imaginable myth to explain the gaps in our understanding. .. But, I would have to say, that I hope natural, observable, and testable scientific understanding replaces theses myths before the myths destroy mankind.
I'm issuing a formal apology to Yet_To_Be_Defeated. It seems he was stung by my thoughtless disregard of his carefully thought-out post. I was trying to contradict the historical accuracy of Biblical "miracles" as actual and factual. I believe that while they are good fables, they are not to be taken literally. I was too caustic in my words and for that I apologize.
QUOTE - Mandingo writes: 'Maffwiz, What empire you are talking about? The one that all of you escaped to reach freedom in the west?' UNQUOTE
No Goofball, I'm talking about the Muslim Ottoman Empire. The three largest Empires in world history are the Roman Empire (30 BC - 395 AD), the Byzantine Empire (395 - 1100), and finally, the Ottoman Empire (1100 - 1923).
QUOTE - Mandingo writes: 'you obviously have to read a little more. Islam should be older than Christian but after Jesus came all older rules pass away' UNQUOTE
No sir, YOU obviously need to do more reading. Secondly, Christianity is older than Islam. How can Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) over-ride the laws of something that hadn't even come to pass as yet? - mind you, the laws of Jesus are essentially the same as Islam's laws. Islam is a continuation of the teachings of Jesus Christ.
QUOTE - Guest_476a5 writes: 'Islam is for those who cannot think.' UNQUOTE
Wow, that was clever!
It's amusing how the biggest critics of Islam turn out to be the biggest idiots.
Avoid any religion that was started in the United States.
All the empires that Maffwiz stated are gone, so that just goes to show how weak Islam is when it comes to their God saving them. If Allah was so faithful to your empires why didn't he let them wxist? He was probably mad at Islamics or somthing.
Mr. Yet to be Defeated,
First of all, if Islam was so weak, then it should have died out a long time ago, most likely 1400 years back during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) as several assissination attempts plotted against him and failed (even when only a handful of Muslims existed). Now please explain how one illiterate Shepard from the desert suddenly paves the way for a religion which now inhabits 1.2 billion believers? - 'weak' did you say? Good luck with that.
Secondly, the 'Muslim God' is the same Abrahamic God as revered by Christains, Sabians, Jews, and Zoroastrains - so understand Whom you're refering to when you say 'Allah'.
Thirdly, it is not Allah's job to do the work for Muslims. In the Holy Quran, Allah says 'God helps those who help themselves', so if Muslims are going to be lazy helpless to one another, then they in-turn cannot expect Allah is going to help them. It is true to some extent, that Muslims nowadays are not as strong today as they were before when they were united - much of this has to do with the corrupt leaders that are running most Muslim countries, which in turn has an influence over the Muslim bodies. But the time is comming that Muslims shall unite themselves again, and lead the world as they already have.
Muslims don't believe in any moon god, and never claimed Prophet Muhammad was their savior.
Go back to school son.
All religions suck apart from mine
jws all the way! the rest are false! satan is a catholic!!!
Christianity can back up any argument. Other religions can't. For example, you could ask a Muslim why his people are killing innocents, and he wouldn't be able to answer truthfully.
Yet to be defeated, has yet to differenciate between radical extremism, and orthodox ideology. There are good and bad apples from all walks of life, end of story.
religious fundamentalism of any brand is dangerous.
It all depends on who you are
thou shall only believe the lord thy God, not some books or religion, but the actual being.
Catholocism isn't a religion dumbnutz. Catholocism is Christianity. And to those who say you were once Christian but aren't now were never Christian. I've done all I can to get to people but it is in your hands now.
"God blesses the humble." "The meek will inherit the earth." Such verses from our Bible(not your Koran) Show that God(Allah) blesses those who worship and believe in him. Take the U.S. as an example. I know most people on this site are going to berate me for this, but in all honesty, Christianity is the most abundant religion in the U.S. Now, we turn our observant eyes to the East, in which Muslim rule inflicts poverty, crime, and fear into all individuals. Such a "good" religion should not spark such horrible results. Let's take Turkey for an example. For years they have rejected Islamic rule against them. And because of that, they are free, and maintaining democracy. In case you didn't know, Maffwizzinyourself, the United States Constitution and other basic fundamentals of our government were based on Christianity. Now as my last point, Answer me this, smart guy: Other than the U.S.A. and Canada(religious freedom countries), which Muslim-run country has a well-run government like the U.S. and Canada? The answer? NONE. Lastly, Jesus had only twelve disciples with him and he still managed to spread his message everywhere. He followed the same sort of steps that Muhammed(i think thats how you spell his name) took. It goes to show that Christianity IS superior to other religions; But that's not saying that you should accept it. You make your own choice to what religion you follow.
Islam is the greatest religion, and when you guys talk shit about it, it just makes you look stupid.
Do you know what Jews do on the Day of Atonement, that you think is so sacred to them? I was one of them. This is not hearsay. I'm not here to be a rabble-rouser. I'm here to give you facts. When, on the Day of Atonement, you walk into a synagogue, you stand up for the very first prayer that you recite. It is the only prayer for which you stand. You repeat three times a short prayer called the Kol Nidre. In that prayer, you enter into an agreement with God Almighty that any oath, vow, or pledge that you may make during the next twelve months shall be null and void. The oath shall not be an oath; the vow shall not be a vow; the pledge shall not be a pledge. They shall have no force or effect. And further, the Talmud teaches that whenever you take an oath, vow, or pledge, you are to remember the Kol Nidre prayer that you recited on the Day of Atonement, and you are exempted from fulfilling them. How much can you depend on their loyalty? You can depend upon their loyalty as much as the Germans depended upon it in 1916.
The History of Jews as Parasites on their Host Nations,
December 12, 1998, by Dr. John Pierce of The National Alliance
Abstract of Lecture. Beginning with ancient authors, the Jews have been described as parasites who have entered their host nations and gained control of their wealth, forcing their native population to work for them, to produce wealth for the Jews. Dr. Pierce analyzes this history and finds it applicable to Jews throughout World History and especially in America today. Do you agree or disagree with this analysis? For what reasons? In either case, you will require Real Audio to hear this 25 minutes analysis. The Real Audio Player may be downloaded in a few seconds from Real Audio.
QUOTEIslam is not the best religion. It is not a religion of peace as Muslims try to claim. In fact that is an insult to the inteligence all free thinking humans of this planet.ENDQUOTE
Whats more unintelligent than spelling intelligence wrong? Your an idiot, and it seems like YOU are the one who needs to read the Qu'ran THOROUGHLY, not just passages which you are told to read.
"Don't be gullible people. Read the Quran for yourself."
I have, and that wasn't what I found.
OK, Architect, there are two doors. The FIRST door is the one you have already entered: ignorance. You know that thousands of people are terrorists and/or suicide bombers that are told to kill for Allah each day. If Islam is so great, tell me which country it has benefited. And if you say U.S.A. I will electronically punch you.
The Second Door leads to understanding that the Islamic religion is faulty. We already know which door you are going to pick, aren't we?
The best religion is that wich u don't needto pay or go to church or temple, and you don't need to bother others too. Wanna cult something? Cult your family and friends
You got to be good. Doesn't really matter who you bow to when you are praying.
You do not enter heaven on good works alone. Rather, your belief with all your mind, heart, and strength that Jesus Christ is Lord permits you to enter his Sacred Realm.
Yet_to_be_defeated, why do you think all Muslims have this cynical outlook on the West? In case you didn't know, some of us were born here and lived our entire lives here. You have no more incentive to praise the goodness of the West more than I do. I enjoy living in Canada because of the opportunity and peace. But then again, the West has pretty much always been a haven, as regions in the other half of the world does not even have the choice to excercise peace; they are burdened by conflict and calamities to which in turn slow down their progress and innovation. Do you think Palestinians and Jews are fighting over religion? No, it is territorial war, and the consequences of that do not make those lands preferable for onlookers. Canada has no beef with the world, so that's why I enjoy living here, and I do not omit the credit it deserves as a country. And America deservers credit too for its contributions to technology and sciences, although I have complaints towards the behavoir of its government, most notably on foreign policy. Apart from that, countries like Saudia Arabia, Iran, Turkey etc. are perhaps on par, near par, or even above par other neighboring countries; Muslim and non-Muslim.
Oh, I also love it when the critics of Islam pretend to be Quranic scholars, and think they back themselves up with verses from the Quran which are usually pasted off some website. I'll bet 99% of the non-Muslims you see quoting all these Quranic verses do not even own an actual copy of the Quran, or let alone read an entire chapter. All they do is spew things out context, or they simply don't understand what they are reading. The Quran has never issued any blanket statement for killing non-Muslims.
I would have to say any religions that promotes understanding would be the best. Religious sects that promote the most ignorance/dogma would have to be the worst. With that said, science would have to be the best religion.
Religious fundamentalism is the greatest threat to world peace right now.
Ahem, Turkish people have rejected Muslim rule for years, that is why they are still free today. You cannot deny that Muhammed was a warrior who had slain thousands of people. You cannot deny that the Islamic religion preaches intolerance of infidels. You cannot deny that Muslim-governed countries are poor and bedraggled, Desperately trying to escape from these worlds to free America. Those three points are the most crucial to my offense. Saudi Arabia's wealth is run by a few royal families. Iran is ruled by a dictatorship. How can it get any worse?
"For God opposes the proud and gives grace to the humble."
James 4-11."Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me."
Betcha that's not in your Quran.
Mr. Guest_f79e3, if you think "Mohammed was nothing but pedophile narcacist", then I shall have no difficulty making quick work out of you. Speak away, but focus on one topic at a time, and that will be more convenient.
i am muslim...we believe ,jesus will come soon...what do you think about islam,my christian brother??
Guest_f79e3, I am on your side, if you truly can prove your point. May the debate begin!
A message was sent to Israeli employees at the WTC hours beofre the attack telling them to get out now! It was sent by an Israeli company called Odigo. The jew media in America swept this one under the rug like they do everytime Israel does something horrendous!
yes, and the code word was "taste my soup, it's not hot"
1 billion muslims in the world... a great consumer base by any projections... wait, do I see a new arab friends tv show, .. wait, how about Allah Cola, oh wait they already have that.. well back to the drawing board.
"Guest_f79e3" Religion is a very sensitive and personal issue. Any debate involving religion cannot be conducted if ground rules are not set before. And the first ground rule is no insults to religious figures. Since you break the first rule, no one will debate you abt religion.
any religion that promises you will go to heaven is probably infested with inbred, retarded dimwits. Islam and PTL CLUB, ...MEL GIBSON...ALL MORONS
whatever. Another user who has no idea what they are talking about. Please move on.
If atheism is "belief in no God" how the heck can it lead to God? Once again, another person who doesn't know what they are talking about. You must believe FULLY in God to get where he is.
QUOTE - Guest_f79e3:
I will prove to that Mohammed was a pedophile and a narcacist. (If I do so) you must apologize and also denouce Islam as an evil cult that teaches violence. - UNQUOTE
Denied. If you prove that "Muhammad was a pedophile and a narcacist", then I will simply admit that he is a paedophile and a narcissist. That under no circumstances requires me to denounce the religion of Islam, or label it an evil cult. Mind you, Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) was neither a paedophile nor a narcissist. You should understand that the outcome of any debate should produce adequate conclusions. Do you wish to continue?
QUOTE - Guest_f79e3 writes: Maffwiz you have dissapointed me. - UNQUOTE
No, please! - say that isn't so. That really does hurt my wittle Muslim feelings. You have no idea how many years have gone by since I've been trying to impress you.
Poor, Guest_f79e3, I must've hit a nerve because I didn't agree with his hemorrhoidal ultimatum.
Okay tough guy, if you prove that Prophet Muhammad(P) was a narcissist and a paedophile, I will apologize, denounce Islam, call it evil, and admit that the Easter Bunny is cooler than the Ramadan Bunny. But if you fail to do so, then you must only apologize and nothing else. Capiche?
Let me explain this in high school Junior terms: In reform Judaism, we believe that any person who does good for others is a holy person. You're thinking of everything in your own narrow little box. Doing good things for other people is a form of worship to G-d, whether that's conscious or not. Thus an athiest who does good for others is therefore a person who is doing, what is, in my opinion, the will of G-d. What I'm saying, and listen carefully, that by living, simply by living, and doing good things for others, we honor G-d. You don't have to go to a temple, or belong to one, because Judaism is so different than what you've known. We don't go to temple to experience our faith. Real worship happens at home. Ie: One lights Shabbat candles and eats shabbat dinner with loved ones before one goes to shabbat services. The services, the prayers, are not nearly as important during shabbat as the spending of time with loved ones, of inviting those who are alone on shabbat to share food and drink, of giving charity to social causes (tzedakha). Temple provides an outlet for those who need it, but it's not for everyone. You need to realize that not everyone has to do what you do. The athiest who does these good acts and doesn't believe in G-d, is just as holy as any observant Jew. Read what I said before. What one DOES not what one BELIEVES. Most reform Jews also believe that G-d has revealed itself differently to different peoples. Thus all G-ds are considered to be the one G-d revealed in different ways. For those who are polytheistic, we would see that as aspects of the one G-d. But that's niether here nor there. Bottom line: No one HAS to worship anything. People should be happy, and if religion doesn't make you happy, I don't see why you should HAVE to do it. Shalom.
To maffwiz: May I just say "hemorrhoidal ultimatum" is, by far, the coolest uses of an adjective that I have ever seen. And the easter/Ramadan bunny thing was great. Salaam.
According to you, if I think "outside the box" then what I see is no purpose to our existence. ANYONE can be good to others, even the worst of people. ANYONE can spend time with loved ones, can do good deeds, etc. Therefore there is no challenge to what we think is right. I'm not saying that stuff isn't important. Of course it's important. But it isn't everything. You still haven't answered my question. If all people go to heaven, no matter what they do, what is our purpose of being here? your idea sounds too good to be true.
To Coupyrainbow: shalom ;)
I would have gladly answered your question - if you had asked it ;). The question you're asking was asked by Talmudic scholars for years...I would have to say this. In Judaism, the concept of a "good deed" is called a mitzvah. But, like a lot of Hebrew words, it means way more than that. Mitzvah also means "obligation." You don't understand that I'm not saying "Everyone goes to heaven." What I'm saying is that we believe there is another place we go to after death - "arivot olam," literally - "another world." But we don't know what it's like. We just know that it's a better place and that everyone goes there. Hell was invented by the Catholic church in order to get money for what they termed "Indulgences." The theory being if you did something bad, you could pay cash to the church for forgiveness of the sin. Seriously, no offense to Catholics. But they needed something that the indulgence would get them out of and so they adapted the biblical concept of "Shaol" into what everyone knows as the Christian "Hell." In Judaism, Shaol is known as a place where people who have not done good in life have to study the Torah until they understand true goodness, and then they go to the heaven type place. That's of course, the story. Again we don't know the reality - we never will. As to your question, I will say that the purpose of creation is to add to it. G-d creates a people purely out of love. G-d has so much love, incomprehensible amount of pure good, that it creates a people with this love. And it creates the beatiful rainforests and mountains and deserts. And the only commandment (of which there are 613) in the Tanakh (bible) that is never contradicted when all the others are is: Love each other. Do good for others. So, I see my purpose on earth to try to love people to accept and to embrace them and try to capture a tinge of the love G-d has for us. This doesn't mean quoting scripture, or thumping my bible or going to synagogue, it means being there as a human to help another human - no strings attached. I go to synagogue because I want my belief that everything good I do makes the world better for everyone else - regardless of any difference - to be reinforced. And because I want to connect spiritually with my fellow Jews who also say "Ken Yehi Ratzon" (May it be G-d's will). So in short, the answer: The purpose of creation is to honor our fellow creation(s). And that by honoring them, we, by default, honor our creator. Shalom.
To whateverhappens, addendum:
So I would say a good way to look at it would be to say: If loving each other and being good to one another and helping those that can't help themselves with whatever we can, isn't a good enough reason to exist - then, frankly, I don't know what is. If you're only warming a pew on sunday, and saying prayers because you don't want to go to hell. Then where's your substance? That's a fear tactic. THAT is what I would call evil. Holding a threat over someone like that - to threaten about a supposed place we know nothing about. That's why I stress it's not what you believe. Your belief means jack shit until you do something with it. The bible was written as a guide on how to love one another, and so many have perverted it into hate literature. That truly makes me sad. Look at yourself - you have an infinate capacity to care about people and to love people - is that not a good indicator of just how much love was put into our creation? That when G-d started evolution, it made beings that knew how to love that were not only our primate ancestors. That's my point.
Ahem. I know you're anti-muslim and all, but I'd like to insert this little thought to you: You can crush Maffwiz's points. You can break them to the ground and grind the pieces to dust and you can wash that dust down the fastest river. But, sir (or ma'am). Maffwiz will still be an observant muslim, and you will still be...whatever it is you are. But I'd ask that in an argument we argue the subject matter - not attack the people arguing. There's no point in insulting Muhammed (peace and blessing be upon him)just because something you believe is your point. Argument is civilized. More so a formal debate (which you proposed). So there's no point. No point at all.
I'm glad to hear that :). Thanks so much for sharing your path.
I think your comment was well stated. Everyday we hear all about "muslim terrorists" but that's only because GW's definition of "terrorism" is not only cliche but self serving. You'll notice he only applies the term "terrorism" to countries that the US has a vendetta against. My example: Palestinian "terror bombers" blow themselves up on a crowded bus in Jerusalem. Terrorism? Yes. Israel bulldozes innocent people in refugee camps, and consistently denies homan rights to them - but is this terrorism, according to GW? No. Of course not, they're a "defense force." In reality, Israel has done far, far worse to Palestinians then they have done to Israel. As a Jew, I feel that my people have done horrible things and we need to make up for that. And just bacause we don't hear about terrorists in Columbia killing tons of citizens (Who happen to be Catholic), or terrorists who blow up children's busses in Ireland (Who are either protestant or Catholic)- doesn't mean that it doesn't happen, or that Muslim terrorists are just more numerous. And, folks, the Muslims that do perform acts of terror are not regular Mulims. They are to Islam, what those bible thumping, convert-or-die, "repent now" Christians are to Christianity. They're not the norm, or mainstream. A great book about all this is "The Eagle's Shadow," by Mark Hertsgaard - a Yale educated journalist. Again, to all my Islamic, and Christian and all other brothers and sisters, try to learn the facts before you judge. Shalom, Salaam, Pax, Peace.
Goes to show that Islam takes its self wayyyy too seriously!
It's cool. Sorry I made fun of you earlier in posts that was childish. This is just my belief *shrugs*
TO SOUPY RAINBOW OR WHATEVER:
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU??? "SEXUAL ORIENTATION" WHATNOT. If you are a fag than you are going to Hell. Yes Hell. And no, Athiests do not go to Heaven, and no, they do not have a beautiful tradition. I have realized that Jews are like a heap of Liberal, Antichristian...Jews. You support study and stuff. You SUPPORT something. You can always tell that when a religion SUPPORTS something then it's usually bad. That's just how liberals do it. You guys are very anti-biblical law, letting gays have there way. I'll bet you guys can only eat certain foods. You Do? I thought so. Sounds like another cult. Like Mormonism, Islam and Catholicism. Christianity is the only example I could find of that "strict - but - fair" stuff.We can eat anything, and go to Hell if we don't believe. I have no care of people saying that God is just a scare tactic to get people to be good. You know what? The nicest of people are in Hell, and there are murderers in Heaven. You do not get into Heaven on works, but should show poeple that there is a difference in people. Im still up for email debates. jan_kendrijk @ hotmail.
This is a non argument Christianity
Religious fundamentalitst are the greatest threat to world peace at this moment, so I would have to say no religiouns are best.
Millions of christian tribulationists pushing world events to make their self fulfilling doomsday prophesy come true.... Now that is just as scary as any Islamist radical.
Millions of christian tribulationists pushing world events to make their self fulfilling doomsday prophesy come true.... Now that is just as scary as any Islamist radical.
That is your response to the facts? How childish..
we Christians are just giving people a chance to have that choice, couchgnome. It's our sworn duty to present our faith to you; and then you can accept it or reject it.
Awwww, I didn't know you missed me Mr. Guest, I'm touched.
The Christian Bible gives no instruction or inspiration to attack non-Christians, however, in contrast the so-called Holy Quran is filled with scriptures and verses that clearly teach the faithful Muslims that they are required to slay and beleaguer the unbelievers.
Oh. Is that so? Well, apparently you don't know squat about your own scripture either.
Let's have a look:
"Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children." (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)
"Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood." (Jeremiah 48:10 NAB)
"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction". (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)
"But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst." (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
"If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death." (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Oh dear oh dear, what have we got here. Mass killing and destuction of cities and unbelievers sparing no inhabitants - including little children. But wait a minute - wasn't Mr. Guest saying that the Bible insisted nothing about attacking non-Christians? Boo hoo, what's Mr. Guest going to do now?
By the way chap, you'll notice the Bible teaches the stoning of adulterers and "unchaste women" at the point of marriage. So go suck on a tic tac so that the world does not have to bear that stench comming from your side, read your own scripture before you attack the Qur'an.
Many hugs 'n kisses from Maff Wiz.
Thank you maff.
Guest_9f1a7, your rhetoric is of no significance to me.
All religions, all movements, all groups, have their terrorists, which says a lot mroe about people. Most religions do have a peaceful message, hwoever human kind is not a peaceful animal.
Terrorism by peo;le of non-Islamic religion.
1) IRA, Utd. Kingdom - protestant v catholic terroist bombings and violence over a period of 30 years.
2) Waco, USA. Christian sub-sect fanatics. Shoot out with govt forces.
3) Tokyo (subway), Japan. Alternative cult attacked Tokyo subway with gas.
4) Spain and Western Europe 15th - 18th century. Inquizition, mass government genocide/deportations with the Pope's blessing.
1990's former Yugosalvia. During conflict, mass burning of Muslim places of worship.
Utd. Kingdom, 16th & 17th century. persecution and execution of those suspected of Witchcraft and other assorted "heretics". Also during the middle ages was the persecutions of catholics or protestants, depending on who was in power at the time.
well, Guest_9fi7, you sure shut up Maffwiz. once you presented him with the verses of the Qu'ran, he must have panicked and left.
excellent, Guest9fi7. You should write to the editor of your newspaper.
And so, the downfall of Islam is given. guest9fia7, register as a user, then contact me when you do so. I need your help!
What's with you people; there is no such thing as the "best religion". That's how conflict starts because one person or group of people believe that they're religion is the only true relgion, and all the others are wrong so they must die. We all need to have an open mind when it comes to religion and respect others' relgions.
Wtf with these long ass and uncountable comments? Just STFU!
Looks like Christianity leads slighty. The various voted denominations of Christianity is still Christianity. Do the math.
Judaism tops the list only because it sucks.
Not greater than Jinn_the_Kafir, whose greater strength and just cause will crush your shaytan moon God into sand dust.
LOL! And you need to do a better job on your research.
You really show how weak you are with words, as well as your views and arguement. When all you can do is make a feeble attempt to attack my User Name. How pathetic you are. And Like a true coward you use an unregistered name. Just like a Muslim would do. I feel sorry for you.
The human species needs to get together and put away myth.
You are a stalker. Get your head examined.
You can't refute what I present or argue against these facts. You are in my user motto. Your emotional hate is festering. So you attempt to insult me, but you only succeed in making yourself look foolish.
I'm against Islam and it's teachings. What is wrong with that? Perhaps you should read my public comments to LCDs user page, so I don't have to repeat myself. Then take a hike stalker.
Suit yourself and your strange needs, but your weak opinion does not refute or change the truthful facts I present, and when you edit, or insert (parenthesis) remarks when you quote me, then it is you that becomes a liar, dishonest and untrustworthy. Be have to wonder about your behavior and mental state.
Thousands of Islamic terrorists are expressing their hate for non-Muslims by committing acts of violence and killing innocent non-Islamic civilians, and generally sabotaging any chance of peace in this world. I'm an single individual that points this fact out. How is it that a person like you, who claims to value and promote peace and be against hate feel so compelled and obsessed to spend their time bashing my individual opinions and presented truths? Do I deserve this attention? Do my comments merit your stalking? My views and my presented facts must be powerfully real to capture so much of your attention. It would appear that you give my remarks credibility. Thank you. You may continue to stalk me.
Religion is social and psychological control. It exists because it has served some evolutionary advantage to the human species. We have to remember that most of humanity was illiterate until recent times. The best method to maintain social order was through religious images, symbols, and fear of eternal damnation. Religious myth also is a tool used by our psychological defense mechanism. "God" may symbolize an ever present father figure. Of course "God" is usually defined as a man, because humanity arose out of an agricultural society that places higher authoritarian value on males. When people take the time to think about why they believe what they do, then maybe they can break the shackles of religious indoctrination.
To 04365, YOU SAID: "Jinn Kafir look at the results of this poll it is obvious that you are a fool who is in the minority."
Minority of what? I despise almost all religions. I do not even vote here. However, I do find Islam to be a religion that teaches hate. But regarding your comment: It simply does not represent the truth. Before you mak that "leap of faith" judgement you need to total all the respective ballots. If you don't do this then you are either cheating or you can't be bothered doing the math. Therefore it is you that is the fool. Do this, and you will discover a large number of various Christian sects (ballots) have also been listed and voted for. Likewise, you will find a few extra ballots for Islam down the list. Total everything up and you will find the voting to be almost even.
However, the point is moot since there are twice the number of Christians on this planet, being two billion compared to Muslims at one billion. Perhaps most Christians don't feel a need to vote based on these numbers, which to them speaks for itself.
Who is the fool?
To Guest_04365 / d2016
Yes the world is a violent place. Western civilization has spawned it's own nasty tyrants and ideologies. But the good side of Western civilization also came together to defeat these abnormal behaviors. Lessons were learned, reforms took place and western civilization has vastly improved because of it. Too bad the same can't be said about the Islamic religion and culture.
Either you do not know your Islamic history, or you choose to avoid it. In the 1400 years of it's history Islam's brutal expansionism has undoubtedly killed more people and destroyed more towns and communities than one hundred modern day world wars.
From Islam's earliest beginings Muslims have carried out ethnic cleansing as part of the forced expansion of Islam itself. Genocide was in fact tought and practiced by Muhammad, the self proclaimed messenger of Allah. The Prophet raided the 2000-year-old Jewish communities of Medina, slaughtered their men, confiscated their properties enslaved their wives and children and banished the unwanted. All this with no provication by the Jews. The Holy Prophet's sole purpose and motive was greed for their wealth, and lust for their women. This is recorded by Islamic scholars and historians.
Muslim warriors carried on this sunnah (examples set by Muhammad) after his death. At his deathbed, Muhammad's last wish was to cleanse Arabia from all Jews and Christians; "No two religions are allowed in Arabia" he ordered and Omar carried out that order a few years later.
In subsequent years, when a Muslim army invaded a town, they would not allow anyone to convert to Islam for three days. During these three days they could kill as many men as they liked, pillage their properties, then rape and enslave their women and children. Only after a town had been decimated and all the young women and children that could be sold as slaves were captured, would the brutal campaign of Islamization begin, with its brutal mandate that all must convert or die.
The Ottoman Empire was created by centuries of jihad against Christian populations. These Ottoman Muslims advanced deep into Europe, pushing all the way to Spain. The invading Muslims destroyed everything in their path. The Ottoman Empire's expansionist campaigns were mostly aggressive and brutal, with cities pillaged and non-Muslim civilians massacred. Many of those that survived became slaves and were forced to convert to Islam. The Christian Crusdes were the reconquering of these lands and the recapturing of occupied holy sites.
In more recent times we find Islamic violence still prevails. In 1915 there was the Ottoman genocide against Armenian Christians. Allah's good Muslims expunged more than a million Christians through deportation, starvation, and bloodbaths. In the last 25 years Muslims have killed more (other) Muslims than both world wars. Upto one million killed during the Iran-Iraq war alone. Today, and every day violence, or war and conflict and strife permiates almost every nation that is primarily Islamic. Is it any wonder that these nations fail to advance from their archaic ways.
The history of Islam is a history of intolerance, violence and discrimination. There is no such thing as "tolerant Islam". The real Islam is the radical Islam. What is known as the tolerant Islam is "less-Islam". Islamic societies are tolerant to the degree that they are not Islamic. The more they practice the Quran, the more intolerant they are.
I would like to add my above comments.
Since WWII the west has of course advanced into a more tolerant and peacefully controlled democratic society. While Islam for the most part has actually regressed in the other direction. In western culture, acts of (homegrown) religious terrorism like those perpetrated by Muslims are almost unheard of. Timothy Mcveigh and the Oklahoma bombing is a rare example of terrorism that is remembered well in the minds of Americans, not only because of the lives lost, but because it was so unusual in being a domestic related terrorist event. However, this callous act was inspired by a deranged criminal mind, and not by religious beliefs. The IRA situation seems to be under control. Contrary to what some people believe, this was not a conflict inspired by religious teachings either.
But let us look at some truly unforgetable terrorist attacks in the west from recent memory. Among the most horrific of these were Islamic terrorist acts that were perpetrated (exported or imported) by Muslims in Western Europe and North America.
For example: The 1979 assaination attempt on Christianity's Holiest living man the Pope, the 1988 explosion of Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, the 1995 bombing of the French high-speed metro rail cars in Paris, the horrific 9-11 events in New York, Washington DC and Pennsylvania, the attempted airline shoe-bombing (2 months later) by an Al-Qaida trained Muslim. There has been he continued and constant threats by more Islamic terrorists since then, and lastly, the recent commuter train bombing in Spain. All these attacks came without warning and were cowardly and callously designed to kill as many unsuspecting and innocent (unbelievers) civilians as possible. Many of the murdered victims never met or never knew a Muslim.
IMAM ADMITS ABUSING GIRLS
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 (BBC NEWS) An Imam has admitted sexually abusing girls who had come this Mosque in Hertfordshire to learn the Koran. On Wednesday, Hajif Ullah, 43, pleaded guilty to six charges of indecent assualt on four girls between September last year and May this year. Two charges were committed against a 10-year-old, two against a 11-year-old, one against another 11-year-old and one against a 16-year-old. Ullah came to Britain from Bangladesh in 1998 to work as an Imam at the Mosque in Florence Street, Hitchin,
Hertfordshire. He was dismissed in May this year and moved to London where he was arrested in July. At a earlier hearing Ullah denied the charges. But on Wednesday they were put to him again at St. Albans Crown Court and he pleaded guilty.
Defence barrister Miam Azhar: "He has been here since 1998 in a capacity as an Imam. He wishes to leave the country as soon as his sentence expires." Adjourning the case Judge Findlay Baker QC: "These offences require explaination and assessment of the risk of
MUSLIM CLERIC GETS 9 YEARS IN BRITISH PRISON. Fri, March 7, 2003. (BBC)
Abdullah el-Faisal (39) was convicted last month for stirring up racial hatred and for soliciting murder. Prosecutors played tape recordings in which he called for the death of non-believers and refered to training school boys to shoot AK-47 assault rifles.
El-Faisal told meetings of young British Muslims it was their duty to kill non-believers and promised schoolboys they would be rewarded with 72 virgins in Paradise if they died in a holy war.
Ayatollah Khomeini's Religious Teachings on
Marriage, Divorce and Relationships: "A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, but other sexual acts such as forplay,
rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged."
OPERATION GREEN QUEST TARGETS TERRORIST FINANCING
Several U.S. businesses tied to a global money transfer network known as AL-BARAKAAT.
This network, headquartered in Dubai and operating in 40 nations around the globe, is reportedly skimming millions of dollars off legitimate transfers by Somali emigres worldwide and providing the funds to Osama bin Laden's organization and other
Agents have descended on targeted storefronts in Boston; Seattle; Buffalo;
Dallas; Minneapolis; Duluth; Miami; Columbus, Ohio; Alexandra, Va., and Falls Church, Va.
They have closed down eight Al Barakaat businesses in the U.S., frozen their assets, and
seized mounds of evidence.
Agents have charged and arrested as many as two dozen individuals, all of Arab descent.
Operation Green Quest is targeting numerous entities, including illicit charities,
corrupt financial institutions, and underground financial systems, such as Hawala, that is suspected of providing financial support to Islamic terrorist organizations.
Some 500 Arab and Muslim businesses are being investigated.
John Forbes, a former U.S. Customs Service official, who directed a financial crimes task force in New York, said "It wasn't until after the September 11 attacks that we understood the magnitude of the (terrorist) fundraising from our own shores".
U.S. authorities said they believe many small-scale scams are generating tens of
millions of dollars a year for militant Islamic groups.
The criminal activity includes skimming of profits of drug sales, stealing and reselling of baby formula, illegally redeeming huge quantities of grocery coupons, collecting fraudulent welfare payments, swiping credit card numbers and hawking unlicensed T-shirts.
Investigators suspect that some of the money has gone to Palestinian groups that use suicide bombings to kill innocent Israeli civilians, including the Islamic Resistance Movement, or Hamas, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, federal officials say.
"The Islam/muslums use the Koran and minipulate what it says, to convey a message that dieing for your god/religion will send you to heaven-hence terrorists."
Why would they manipulate what is cleary written for all to see?
QURAN: Regarding Unbelievers:
2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them
2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression
2:216, Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you
3:28, Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah
4:48 "Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed."
4:84, Then fight in Allah's cause - Thou art held responsible only for thyself - and rouse the believers. It may be that Allah will restrain the fury of the Unbelievers; for Allah is the strongest in might and in punishment.
4:141, And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way (to triumphs) over the believers
5:33, The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
8:12, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
8:15-16, O ye who believe! when ye meet the Unbelievers in hostile array, never turn your backs to them. If any do turn his back to them on such a day - unless it be in a stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own)- he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed)!
8:17, It is not ye who slew them; it was Allah: when thou threwest (a handful of dust), it was not thy act, but Allah's: in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself
8:60, Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.
8:65, O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers
9:5, But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem.
9:3, And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.
9:14, Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers,
9:23, O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong.
9:28, O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque.
9:29, Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
9:39, Unless ye go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least.
9:73, O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed.
9:111, Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an
9:123, O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.
22:9, (Disdainfully) bending his side, in order to lead (men) astray from the Path of Allah: for him there is disgrace in this life, and on the Day of Judgment We shall make him taste the Penalty of burning (Fire).
22:19-22; These two antagonists dispute with each other about their Lord: But those who deny (their Lord),- for them will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water. With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein, and (it will be said), "Taste ye the Penalty of Burning!"
25:52, So obey not the disbelievers, but strive against them herewith with a great endeavour.
25:68 "Those who invoke not, with Allah, any other god, nor slay such life as Allah has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment. "(But) the Penalty on the Day of Judgment will be doubled to him, and he will dwell therein in ignominy,-
37:22-23, "Bring ye up", it shall be said, "The wrong-doers and their wives, and the things they worshipped- Besides Allah, and lead them to the Way to the (Fierce) Fire!"
47:4, Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.
48:13 And if any believe not in Allah and His Messenger, We have prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire!
48:29, Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other.
69:30-37 (The stern command will say): "Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, Which none do eat but those in sin."
Yes, I too am aquainted with a number of Muslims. I find them all very polite and pleasant to talk to. But both you and I live in the "west". Most Muslims in the west do not adhere to proper (strong) Islam. In fact, they may have moved to the west to escape the truly oppressive life and existance of "proper" Islam. Sometimes you will hear middle eastern Muslims criticise there western counterparts for "not living true Islam" or say "you are being currupted by Jews and Christians." I'm willing to bet many of the ones you know don't speak Arabic, the traditional language (text) of all Qurans. Most western Muslims have learned to recite Quranic verse in Arabic, but haven't a clue of what they are truly saying.
The history of Islam is a history of intolerance, violence and discrimination. There is no such thing as "tolerant Islam". The real Islam is the radical Islam. What is known as the tolerant Islam is "less-Islam". Islamic societies are tolerant to the degree that they are not Islamic. The more they practice the Quran, the more intolerant they are. Many people claim Muslims such as Osama bin Laden are in fact the most faithful Muslims of all to their Islamic beliefs. But it is the quran's intolerant teachings of hate that I am after. Not necessarily Muslims themselves. However, we can't be to complacient about our more gentle western Muslims. After all, if the verses are their for the faithful, then we must assume that every Muslim at least has the potential to become a terrorist.
Being that all religion comes from a need for socail control and psychological comfort in a complex world where truths are ambigious, I'd have to say that the best religion would be one that incorporates the most amount of intellectual discussion regarding natural observable processes.
Me,myself and I
I want the one that allows the most sex, weed and I don't have to get up early or send out a bunch of cards for.
athiesm or buddhism
Hmmmm....can Buddists have sex? It doesn't include live stock or anything does it? They do light a lot of incense...
"Bubba Jinn i said before that the worst world wars and genocides as well as destructuve ideologies(fascism,terrorism ,nazism,communism,COLONIALISM) of the 20th century originated in Christian Europe. Not Muslims. Why cant you rebut that statement Bubba Jim?"
by Guest_f94d2 on Apr 18, 2004
Firstly, let me make something clear. My criticism applies to all religions. The very concept of God sending messengers to be known and worshipped is absurd. All those who come forward pretending to bring a message from an invisible god that only they can see are charlatans and their claims are bogus. I do believe in a higher Reality and a Single Principle underlying the creation, but not in an egotistic self-centered petulant deity as depicted by these self-appointed prophets.
Secondly, in every religion, there is something good, something bad and something very ugly. The good part is what is being preached, the inner peace and security that it promises. The bad part is the hidden agenda of their founders and how that religion is practiced. The ugly part is the terrible outcome and the disastrous toll that it takes from its followers and non followers. All he religions share the same characteristics. Except Buddhism that is not a religion but an agnostic philosophy of enlightenment. Buddhism makes no mention of God or any deity and Buddha never made any claim of receiving a revelation.
Thirdly, examples of violence can be traced back thousands of years. You wish to select only the 20th century because of what is well documented and recorded. Well that's fine by me. However, ideologies such as fascism, nazism, and communism are not tought in Gospel scriptures of the Bible. Any bad acts carried out by the people of these ideologies were not acts of the Christain doctrine. They were simply the acts of bad people, many of who happened to be Christians. They merely did bad things in spite of what the Bible teaches, not because of it. By the way, the original concept of early communism was NOT to follow any religious belief or God. Colonialism to a certain extent is a part of the history of every tribe or nation in history, but I assume you wish to point to the colonialism carried out by nations of Western Europe. It matters not, because once again exploration, discovery and colonizing are not tought in the Christian (Bible) doctrine, regardless of who was doing the colonizing.
But lastly, the reason I focus mostly on Islam is because Christianity and Judaism are exposed and already de mystified by other critics and scholars, many of who were born within Judaic and Christendoms. Also, these two religions are in my opinion on the decline. They will die on their own without my help. Most important of all, I have no business to criticize the religions of others, unless they become a danger to me. Besides, no one would pay attention anyway, because it is natural that the followers of different religions attack each other's faiths. This kind of religious feuding has been going on since the beginning of he history of mankind. We have to see our own errors not the errors of others. We are responsible for ourselves not for others. If we find our own mistakes and bring them to the light, it is because we love our people. But if we point out the faults of the others, they dismiss it and they become hostile and intensify their fanaticism. Apart from that, unlike Islam, Christianity and Judaism represent no threat to the peace and security of the world. Because when a Christian kills someone, even if the feud is between two religious groups like in the case of Northern Ireland, it is never inspired by religion itself. Nowhere in the Gospel does it says kill the people of other faiths. The Quran however is replete with such exhortations. For a Muslim all wars are religious wars. Christians do not go terrorizing people shouting Jesus is great, but the Muslims always shout Allah u Akbar to get ready for killing.
"Islam must rule the world and until Islam does rule the world we will continue to sacrifice our lives," Al-Badr spokesman Mustaq Aksari,- CNN September 19,2001
Of course Islam because 1 who try it will know that and be sure
Why not a godly relationship with God?
Again, Islam proves that it is totally incapable of showing or proving that it is a religion of peace. Instead, Islamic terrorists feel they have a responsibility to prove to the world that they can't be out done when it comes committing vile atrocities with horrific fear and torture. As they did with Journalist Daniel Pearl, they had no problem cutting of the head of another kidnapped American hostage.
The Quran is their playbook and rule book for terror.
Quran 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
Quran 5:33 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
Quran 9:123 O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.
47:4 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.
Did you spend your holiday reading the Qu'ran, Jinn?
He's educated on what matters.
cretin, go eat a hamburger and watch TV.
Do you know what God most people really serve? Themselves. Why? Because death is at the door and they don't know if they will find an afterlife of pleasure waiting for them .....or not!
Those who serve themselves alone....have no God. Those who serve God in order to be served in heaven....do not have God! Without love for others....without love for God...what is our service worth? This truth is revealed in Jesus Christ. God does not owe anything to anyone....we owe more than we could ever pay. Every good thing we do have comes from him...not because we earned it or deserve it.....but, because he loves us. If you do not have this spirit of love....you do not know the father....he is more than just God...he is our Father.
Yeah sure Anonymous. When are you going to read the Quran?
I'm a nazarine christian they rock, no stupid rules liek so many other christians
Islamic Jehad - Yo
Bowing not Wanking - aka da Saka_Bow
This has to be the largest ballot on this site.
Voted : The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints
By far, it's the true religion of God. :)
Voted : Christianity
You should believe in yourself before believe in any religions
Voted : Harry Potterism
go tmnt!! worship master splinter or you will be send to Shred, and feel the wrath of Shredder
Isn't Roman Catholic or Christianity the same?
Besides, religion is the expressway to heaven, right?
GOD IS REAL!!!!