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EU
The EU is strong, but odor isn't everything.
With luck they would distroy each other
EU would win, US can't find the small countries
U.S.- the new world order
In a war, nobody wins
NATO
nun ov ars kan spelle
France will surrender
The EU would win because The US would kill its own
Above genious can't even spell genius
abuv genius can't even spell above
Abuv geniouses kant evin spool n e thing
us becuase of its nukes
US - England is EU's weakness.
We beat them many times but we always rule
US. Germans, French and Brits Would Protest It
EU with no help from england
britain should take on europe, not the usa.
There is a reason the US more powerful than europe
The USA is the Dominant Power and Culture of Earth
U.S with the help of U.K , Australia and new Zeala
U.S. Cubscouts could defeat the EU
Take away the British forces and the EU is nothing
Tie: EU military: polyglot mash; US self-inflicted
Latvia
Whichever side Britain chooses to fight for. We've got the best military track record +
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Does the E.U. even have an Army?!? All they know is how to kiss the asses (and suck the dicks) of who they think can make their Euro stronger. I say NUKE those rotten-teethed pussies!

entered by : stranger7800
Submitted on : Jan 21,2004 1:04:18 pm

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There would be no winners,humankind would lose.


is russia in the eu?
HA HA HA HA HA HA This is to funny. I can take the questions about China being a threat to the U.S. China is atleast a strong proud country, but Europe? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Get a life. If European leaders thought they evenhad a remote chance against the U.S.A. they would have already acted on it. Europe has never been treated and ignored like we just did you. You all have gone to war over much - much less. The E.U. HAHAHAHAHAHA Yea Right HAHAHAHA Europe is the biggest joke since - well EVER HAHA

Thanks for giving me something to laugh about all week.

I bet Churchill has turned over in his grave about how England has become a nation of cry babies and pussies.
is russia in the EU?
US has more advanced weaponry and doesn't have to worry about all the individual countries getting along, deciding whose military plans to follow, etc. The EU would spend a decade in parliamentary meetings while the US would be kicking ass. That said, both sides would have nukes, so in reality it would ultimately just end up in a free-for-all destruction ruining both the US and EU, I suppose.
america is just our offspring gone bad.
Brittish Bloke

What have you said that has anything to do with what I said?
I never said Churchill wasn't smart. I also never said he wasn't a drunk either!

As for your "America Bought Europe" Yea thats all nice and good, I know we loaned money all over Europe with "Interest"
Here is the problem though. You good for nothing pricks never paid us back anyway. Not one single country ever even paid America back the "interest" they owed America.
Maybe we should come take "our money" back out of your hyde huh?
Basicly America helped pay for you to defend yourself, and you all don't even have enough self respect to pay your debts!
Why should America have given you the money anyway? If someone was attacking us you would not have helped!
I didn't see you all sending us planes and tanks to fight with, or the material to build them!

I think you have it wrong to. How do you call four years of fighting a last minute substitute?
Not to mention, thats just like you Europeans.
You're all on this site complaining about America fighting a war.
Then here you are complaining that we didn't fight soon enough.
That just makes my point for me. No matter what America does you all will complain about it.

I guess my Grandad fought for nothing according to you. I guess his entire platoon being killed was for nothing.
I guess he lost all of his friends and spent years in the hospitol to keep his legs was for nothing.
I guess all the people working in factories in the U.S. sending tanks and planes to Europe to fight with were for nothing to.

You have also proven you are the ones who need to find a way to get less bias information, because you just assume I talk like some little punk.
You watch MTV, and assume we all talk like some retarded little loser.
You don't see Americans watching MTV and thinking everyone in Europe is like the screwed up Osbornes do you?

Either way, it doesn't matter what you or anyone else in Europe thinks about America.
You all have shed to much blood through out history, to point your fingers at ANYONE else.

The EU will have more economic power than the US within the next ten years. Why does the US have the world's greatist military? Economic strength.Why do you think the US is so determined to gain an upper hand with the Mid-East? Because it has to insure its survival. There will be a war and I have to agree with Ken_from_Dublin. There will be no victors!
NATO would win...
You all are ignorant! You keep listening to the B.S. your FAKE Government is telling you. Hitler CRUSHED Europe. Even had Moscow untill America attacked one of his lines to make him call part of his troops from Moscow, saving Russia. The Rusians lost 500,000 people in that batle and were going to fall. Without Russia England had NO chance against Germany! America SAVED you stupid Euro trash and you know it. We should have just crushed Hitler ( like we did )and let the Rusians march back across Europe and claim you for theirself.

As for the EU fighting America, you can't get along with each other long enough to even try it.

All the E.U. is anyway is a lame way for Europe to try and copy the 50 ( United States ) that make up America!

Watch the E.U. is going to cause France and the Britts to go to war again.

They Frogs will screw the Pansy Britts and the Pansy Britts will screw the Frogs. Both of them will screw all the others. ( Remember they never even paid America back the money America loaned them to survive on, and America SAVED them ) The E.U. will be gone in under ten years!

Does the E.U. even have an Army?!? All they know is how to kiss the asses (and suck the dicks) of who they think can make their Euro stronger. I say NUKE those rotten-teethed pussies!
Surely, without all the British to kill with friendly fire, all the EU would need to do is declare war on the US and watch them kill themselves and shoot their own planes down.
What do you call 1,000,000 men holding white flags?

The European Unions Army!

bwa hahahahahahahaha oh god how could they they've got the french
It will never happen. LOL...you mean Vietnam that France handed us? You mean Vietnam that American draft soldiers fought? Sorry today's US Army is all volunteer and the heart of a volunteer is what wins wars.
Seriously though...Funny comment, I like that one. Nice shot!

Who is the idiot downsizing what America did in WW2? We did in WW2 what you want us to do now. Mind our own damn business. When Japan attacked us, when the hell did you expect us to wage war on anyone? I don't doubt Britian declared war on Japan first, because their war machine was already rolling. The US Pacific fleet had just been annihilated. Did you expect us to shit out new ships in a week? We HAD to wait until we could gather our strength. As far as the European part of WW2, yes it was a joint effort, all we pride ourselves on is turning the tide of that war and helping win it. We know we didn't do it single-handedly. As far as Churchill pushing us into Europe, please get of his dick. We were old allies from WW1 and it was only logical that we would join together once we were pulled into war by Japan. Roosevelt had one eye on Europe the whole time, we knew it was very likely sooner or later we would have to go over there, especially once we saw how inept you were at stoping Hitler.
As far as buying Europe in the 40's, how about we saved your economic ass. We don't like to brag until some idiot like you provokes us. Let's not forget that we are only 60 years removed from that war. Let's not forget that the French would be speaking German if not for the US intervention, and everyone in Europe would be speaking Russian if it was for our European nuclear presence after WW2. I don't think Americans ask for much in return, but when criticized about WW2 we will remind everyone one of your asses that any other nation, like communist Russia, would have you wiping our asses right now.
US would win because it has the world's strongst army and turkey has the secon strongest army so these two friend countries fuck EU
Okay, fair enough. Yes the Austrailians did fight every bloody minute wit Japan. So did everyone Japan threatened. I recognize what the Austrailians did. If you want to know why some Americans brag about WW2, I will give you my opinion. It seems to many people would like to forget what happened. Also it seems we were underappreciated. I'm not knocking other countries that fought and died before we came in and fought along side us. I'm saying it's the "what if" factor. What if we wouldn't have gotten drawn into war? Japan was unstoppable in the Pacific. It's like playing a basketball game and you have Michael Jordan on the bench. You put him in and the team does much better. Sure it's a team effort but credit is given and recognized that without Jordan the team would have lost badly. I think that credit isn't respected by many nations in respect to WW2.
I'll give an example, one of many that's occured to me.
I was on a train in Germany on my way to France for the weekend. The Scot/Irish man see's me and asks me if I'm American. I say yes, I'm a soldier stationed in Germany. He says "American soldier! You fought all the easy battles in France." I say "Well I wasn't there so I can't say we didn't." He says "My grandfather fought in some of the bloodiest battles in France, and he didn't see an American in sight." I said "well maybe so, but we suffered some heavy losses to in the Black Forest." He says "Not an American in sight around him." I'm a little pissed at this point and say "Well my grandfather fought the Japanese in the Pacific, and he looked left, right, up, and down, and didn't see a Scot or Irish anywhere in the entire Pacific." The guy said "You made your point." LOL
A little funny, but maybe that will help to see why we are so quick to defend what our grandfathers did in countries and islands far removed from their homes.

Yall are way beyond me on this subject, I am actually learning more here then I did in school. Anyway, the funny part is, most of us Americans are European descendants anyway, we aren't that diffrent, just our leadership is. Everybody is always pointing fingers at each other about who is the bravest and who is a pussy, but the bottom line is we all have bad-asses in our respective military forces and we all have pussies in the forces as well. So who will ever know who would win a war between the EU and US, I would hope to never find out, I dont want to point a gun at my cousin in the azores who is armed with nothing but a rod and fishing lure!
To Toxicated and American Soldier.
Hey all... No one is putting down the bravery of US forces in WW1 and WW2 We are all aware that Omaha beach was the bloodiest beach and that the sacrifices of US servicemen are greatly appreciated and will always be remembered by every freedom loving European. But we are as patriotic as you, We don't like being called cry babies and pussies or the biggest Joke ever and prefer reasoned argument when presenting a case.
I've been in the British Army and served alongside Americans in Germany and the Balkans and don't have an issue with them. They are very effective and totally proffessional. We are too, if considerably less resourced.
For information. I never besmirched the endevours of any American soldier and would not. My Father, a British Soldier, fought in WW2 and landed with the American forces on Omaha beach in 1944 so I am aware of the history and sacrifice. Either way, lots of men died fighting for what they believed was right.
Don't put us down without a reasonable argument or you force us to respond in an equally unreasoned way. (that's how wars are made)

Hey Toxicated.
I just had a browse around some of your other comments. You really have a thing about Europe and UK in particular. Why is this? You are very abusive and yet when someone has a pop at you you respond like a sulking child. Have you ever been to UK or are your opinions of us based on the shite you read on this website. Lighten up fella!

Hail the European Union! They are more powerful than the US. Well, in about 30 years.
Hey Man_with_sanity.
Which history of the Falklands conflict have you been reading? Is it the Buenes Aires edition? Get your facts right before you blurt off. Check out the map (assuming you know what one is) and note the didtance between the Falklands and the UK. Then look around the geography for friendly countries close by. Ohh, there aren't any are there. Pretty amazing military operation if you ask me. Man_without_sanity more like.

PEOPLE inform yourselves.... Europe has a population of around 800 000 000 people, and the us has a population of 250 000 000, that is more that 500 000 000... you do the math
They may have been broke, but there army was US trained, better equiped, larger, much easyer to supply, had excelent air support and beleeved in the cause they where fighting for
Plus we had to invade an island, fight up mountains, across rugged terrain with nearly no tank or air support (couldent get anything but light tanks onto the falklands, and most of the british airpower was busy protecting the fleet)
and if nukes got involved, wouldent matter, europe and the US would both be huge smoking craters
dont take the piss out of britain for WINNING the falklands.
when you guys couldnt even win vietnam

I just browsed through the post since I last commented and wanted to address a couple items.
***I only wish USA got beaten economically. And that might not even be necessary: As it seems now, the US economy is about to collapse anyway.***
Actually the US economy is set to have a record year in 2004. Europe aka Eurozone on the other hand is set to have a tough year. To those who do not study economics, you cannot gauge the economy on the strength of the currency. The currency only deals with banks and deficeits. In fact a strong Euro will lead the European economy down if it continues to rise, which it will unless governments intervene. Economists predict the increase of the Euro will drive unemployment well into 11% for Germany. Meanwhile the US is predicted for unemployment to drop into 7%. The strong Euro is bad for bank interest rates, which doesn't encourage new spending, US interest rates are at record lows. All in all, US and Asia are set for an estimate economic growth of 4% in 2004, while most of Europe will grow at only 1%.
***to British Bloke***
I've had the oppurtunity to train with the British Army in Germany. I loved it. I do agree the only difference that seems to separate the US Army with other allies is equipment. I never respected our Army's equipment issued to us until doing NATO training. It was fun though. I traded some cots, which are a hot commodity to Britians, for a couple jackets and lounge chair. What I really traded though were good memories.
***Friendly Fire***
A favorite target but often misunderstood.
In a maze of logistics, grid coordinates, being awake for 48 hours straight, and general anxiety, friendly fire does happen. What is blown out of proportion is the frequency that it occurs, especially when it comes to air drops. When we hit the Chinese in the Bosnia affair. The US flew closer to 100,000 sorties. For one bomb to go astray out of 100,000. If you are a statistics guy, you will agree that the margin for error is very slight. Weapons and humans aren't perfect and war is ugly. Mistakes happen, risks are high. We just try to minimize risks and avoid mistakes as we do our jobs the best we can.

Americarules says
*You limey faggots would be sucking nazi dick right now if it wasn't for the US. You used to be the number one world power, and now you're not and you just can't stand it.*

I'm sick of this shite... I couldn't give a flying fuck about my country's supposed standing in the modern world. I really wish our erstwhile leaders would put less emphasis on kissing GW's arse and posturing on the world stage and get on with fixing all the domestic issues that affect British People in Britain. We USED to have the best navy in the world. We haven't now, in fact we hardly have a fucking navy at all. We used to be a big player, we aren't now. Who gives a fuck, not me! Trust me, I'm over it. We have an Army so under resourced and over committed that when we do go to war in support of our Allies we have to beg and borrow kit off them in order to function at a basic level. We are the underweight fighter in the heavyweight ring but that said we can still throw a pretty good punch. This is only because of the resolve of the British soldier on the ground though. Our Government seems to take it for Granted that the British Sqaddie will overcome, purely because he is a British squaddie and he doesn't need state of the art equipment to do it. Our army is still running around in vehicles designed in the 50's for god sake.

It's nice to see Americarules and others like him are so appreciative of our efforts. That's the beautiful thing about allies. Working together. Fucking idiot!!

And america would also be sucking nazi dick if britian and russia had caved in befor aerica joined, german and japan could have built up and then roled over the rest of the world. It was a join teffort, thats why all the countries fighting hittler where called the "allies". Not ot mention that russia played a more inportant part on the western fron tthan america. For all the propaganda, you people dont seen to understand what "united we stand" actuly meens, or not the second part - "divided we fall"
Europeans surrender to each other in their gay little wars and beg the U.S. to save their nancy-boy asses all the time so WE would win. we would make (at gunpoint) the brits brush those disgusting chompers and grow hair and sober up. we'd make the french shower, before shooting them for cowardice throughout the ages!
The US would win, we have the most chemical and biological weapons.
England would be on our side like they always has.Japan would be on our side too.But I'm sure China would back up EU.China has been always close to France.That's what my friend(half chinese half french,believe or not.what knda mixture is that??anywayz.I'm Japanese and British,I guess that's pretty messed up too)told me.The reason why China and France are close is because she said they both hate British and Japanese.And she said that to me to my face.Knowing I'm part Jap part Brit.I don't care.Cuz Japs and Brits are much better warrior than French and Chinese anyway.right~
Tough one.Although i am slightly biased here towards the EU, Take away Britain and Germany and the EU are nothing. The rest is filled with either crappy french, or countries with no military, like Iceland (lol they spent £0 on military). Take away them two monsters and the US have easily won. Besides, England and germany are 2 of the 4 countries with Eurofighters, much better than raptors of the US of A. Strange how biased the US are to their own aircraft, like on Hawks, anyone noticed that? or just me?





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