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The fact that this man is alive must be proof that he is a lair and a story fabrication artist for $$$$$$$MONEY$$$$$$.

To be more precise, the fact that Jones, his friends, and family are alive, is proof that he is bullcrap. He, along with a couple of his friends, created a 9/11 conspiracy story claiming that the US government and the military caused 9/11. In other words he's claiming that the US government, for whatever ends, killed nearly 3,000 innocent Americans, and tens if not hundreds of thousands of more lives in the conflicts that ensued because of it.

Now lets think about this. Let's be rational, logical and apply common sense to his outrageous claims.

Since Jones is arguing that the US government has no problem killing 3,000 innocent people, this raises the question: If his claims are true, and he has established that the US government truely and unbelievably has no moral or ethical qualms about killing thousands of its own people, in certainly one of the biggest secretly conspired schemes in modern history, then why wouldn't the government kill Jones and his friends as well? What's a few more lives to them to ensure the success of this conspiracy?

So do you agree that Jones is a liar?

Yes
No
I don't know
Alex uses his profits to expose Jinn's oil and war profiteering masters ~FACT
The fact that they can call him a "conspiracy nut" saves them from having him offed
Yes.... and you copied all that you wrote from maddox, good point though.
Is Not or Is Alex Jones a Liar( you said Is NOT)
Alex Jones for President! or even Prime Minister!
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Yes, false assumptions and mistaken beliefs are the common traits of tinfoil hat quacks. Oh, and of course there is the attitude of bitterness and sour-grapes that these losers have.

entered by : Jinn_the_Kafir
Submitted on : Oct 09,2006 11:53:57 pm

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Today, I visited a site called "loose change," and watched a free, hour and a half video about 9-11 being a conspiracy. I have to admit that there are far more loose ends than I expected. I'm still not convinced it was a conspiracy, but I'd recommend to anyone who is cock-sure that it wasn't a conspiracy to go to the "loose change" website and look and learn.


Palast Charged with Journalism in the First Degree

Greg Palast | September 12 2006

It's true. It's weird. It's nuts. The Department of Homeland Security, after a five-year hunt for Osama, has finally brought charges against … Greg Palast. I kid you not. Send your cakes with files to the Air America wing at Guantanamo.

Though not just yet. Fatherland Security has informed me that television producer Matt Pascarella and I have been charged with unauthorized filming of a "critical national security structure" in Louisiana.

On August 22, for LinkTV and Democracy Now! we videotaped the thousands of Katrina evacuees still held behind a barbed wire in a trailer park encampment a hundred miles from New Orleans. It's been a year since the hurricane and 73,000 POW's (Prisoners of W) are still in this aluminum ghetto in the middle of nowhere. One resident, Pamela Lewis said, “It is a prison set-up" -- except there are no home furloughs for these inmates because they no longer have homes.

To give a sense of the full flavor and smell of the place, we wanted to show that this human parking lot, with kids and elderly, is nearly adjacent to the Exxon Oil refinery, the nation's second largest, a chemical-belching behemoth.

So we filmed it. Without Big Brother's authorization. Uh, oh. Apparently, the broadcast of these stinking smokestacks tipped off Osama that, if his assassins pose as poor Black folk, they can get a cramped Airstream right next to a "critical infrastructure" asset.

So now Matt and I have a "criminal complaint" lodged against us with the feds.

The positive side for me as a journalist is that I get to see our terror-busters in action. I should note that it took the Maxwell Smarts at Homeland Security a full two weeks to hunt us down.

Frankly, we were a bit scared that, given the charges, we wouldn't be allowed on a plane into New York last night. But what scared us more is that we were allowed on the plane.

Once I was traced, I had a bit of an other-worldly conversation with my would-be captors. Detective Frank Pananepinto of Homeland Security told us, "This is a 'Critical Infrastructure' … and they get nervous about unauthorized filming of their property.

Well, me too, Detective. In fact, I'm very nervous that this potential chemical blast-site can be mapped in extreme detail at this Google Map location

What also makes me nervous is that the Bush Terror Terriers have kindly indicated on the Internet that this unprotected critical infrastructure can be targeted -- I mean located -- at 30º 29' 11" N Latitude and 91º 11' 39" W Longitude.

After I assured Detective Pananepinto, "I can swear to you that I'm not part of Al Qaeda," he confirmed that, "Louisiana is still part of the United States," subject to the first amendment and he was therefore required to divulge my accuser.

Not surprisingly, it was Exxon Corporation, one of a handful of companies not in love with my investigations. the Untold Story of the Exxon Valdez."

So I rang America's top petroleum pusher-men and asked their media relations honcho in Houston, Marc Boudreaux, a simple question. "Do you want us to go to jail or not? Is it Exxon's position that reporters should go to jail?" Because, all my dumb-ass jokes aside, that is what's at stake. And Exxon knew we were journalists because we showed our press credential to the Exxon guards at the refinery entrance.

The Exxon man was coy: "Well, we'll see what we can find out…. Obviously it's important to national security that we have supplies from that refinery in the event of an emergency."

Really? According to the documents our team uncovered from the offices of Exxon's lawyer, Mr. James Baker, the oil industry is more than happy to see a limit on worldwide crude production. Indeed, the current squeeze has jacked the price of oil from $24 a barrel to $64 and refined products have jumped yet higher -- resulting in a record-busting profit for Exxon of nearly $1 billion per week.

So this silly "criminal complaint" has nothing to do with stopping Al Qaeda or keeping the oil flowing. It has everything to do with obstructing news reports in a way that no one would have dared attempt before the September 11 attack.

Dectective Pananepinto, in justifying our impending bust, said, "If you remember, a lot of people were killed on 9/11."

Yes, Detective, I remember that very well: my office was in the World Trade Center. Lucky for me, I was out of town that day. It was not a lucky day for 3,000 others.

Yes, I remember "a lot" of people were killed. So I have this suggestion, Detective -- and you can pass it on to Mr. Bush: Go and find the people who killed them.

It's been five years and the Bush regime has not done that. Instead, the War on Terror is reduced to taking off our shoes in airports, hoping we can bomb Muslims into loving America and chasing journalists around the bayou. Meanwhile, King Abdullah, the Gambino of oil, whose princelings funded the murderers, gets a free ride in the President's golf cart at the Crawford ranch.

I guess I shouldn't complain. After all, Matt and I look pretty good in orange.


*******

A personal request to readers. Many have written to ask what can be done to protect Matt and me from becoming unwilling guests of the State.

First, this ain't no foolin' around: Matt and I are facing these nutty charges. So spread the info. We believe that getting the word out is the best defense.

Second, call Homeland Security and turn us in. They seem to have trouble finding us. If you get a reward, you may choose to donate it to the Palast Investigative Fund, a 501(c)(3) educational foundation which supports our work and pays our legal fees.

Third, ask your local library to order our book, Armed Madhouse: Who's Afraid of Osama Wolf? Homeland Security now reserves the right to read over your shoulder at the library; therefore, the more our agents are forced to read this subversive material, the more likely we can convince them to come in out of the cold. All kidding aside, we do ask you to request your library order the book: not everyone can afford to purchase this hardbound edition.

Our thanks to Amy Goodman at Democracy Now! and the folks at LinkTV for broadcasting our report from New Orleans and the Exxon refinery. And to Gil Noble, host of the ABC Television's Like It Is, our Courage in Journalism award for broadcasting our report on his network's New York affiliate. Catch Gil on WABC every Sunday at noon.

David Ray Griffin BBC1 Sunday 10 September 2006 interview about 9/11

Google Video | September 13 2006

A mainstream British TV interview with Griffin about the 9/11 attacks and discussions about how the buildings could have collapsed.

prisonplanet. com/articles /September2006 /130906Griffin .htm

More to come folks - Alex sends his regards Jinn and would like to thank you for the free advertising - he needs all the help he can get as he ploughs all his profits back into his campaign to expose your war and oil profiteering masters.
Google and stream or download 'Painful Deceptions' Margaret, or anyone else who has been made aware of the 9/IIie by Jinn's free advertising here, or check out Alex's prisonplanet.com archives.
Margaret. I too have seen Loose Change and it is full of so much bullshit it boggles the mind to think nobody would pick up on at least some of it. Too much to delve into. However, I have even read comments on the internet from conspiracy nuts who say this themselves also.

Dylan Avery, along with some buddies, is creator of the film Loose Change. He is labeled as a "moron" by other conspiracy buffs who don't want anything to do with him. They can't stomach his bullshit and claim he is a detriment to their cause.

Loose Change has already been scrutinized by the "truth side", and they have pointed out the hundreds of factual inaccuracies and outright lies in this so-called documentary. Dylan Avery has sunk to such new lows that he makes Michael Moore look like boyscout.

Loose Change is easily dubunked on several websites. (Screwloosechange.) (blogspot.) (com) is a blog that has many links to debunk pages of Loose Change, if you are interested.

"More to come folks - Alex sends his regards Jinn and would like to thank you for the free advertising"
by Ken_from_Dublin on Wed Sep 13, 06 11:41

Good, tell him I said; "Up yours you lying mental tifoil hat moron". Then invite him to this site where I will challenge him to convince anyone of his lies. I will say to him "Kenny boy and lovelynice must need your help little Alex, because they sure as hell can't convince anyone here of your lies, not in over a year too, not one!

You see Margaret, not even the parnoid schizophrenic tinfoil hat Kenny boy will endorse "Loose Change".
In answer to your question, if an opposition to government were to dissapear in an alledged democratic country, would that not back fire and cause more suspisions and headlines fuel for the fire, surely that would be obvious.
Lol, can you imagine how crazy the conspiracy nuts would go if this guy died suddenly under mysterious circumstances?
Voted : Yes
Conspiracy Theorists are lacking one important thing and that is just one single piece of evidence that supports their claims.

Look at any of the "evidence" or "sources" that Kenneth, lovelynice et al post on the ballots. It is simply unsubstantiated conjecture based on a false premise.

Again, I urge anyone and everyone to search for themselves. Conspiracy websites and videos are all very convincing at first glance but ANY application of logic or a critical eye soon washes away the weak foundations of their pathetic claims.

I don't know anything really and I sure as heck don't believe Anyone anymore.
The fact I can't look past lately is Who benefitted from 9/11, exactly Who did it help, Who thanked their lucky stars that day?
by Jyl [+]

Voted : Yes
Because he is leading people off of the true path which implicates Israel. ballot #101479
"In answer to your question, if an opposition to government were to dissapear in an alledged democratic country, would that not back fire and cause more suspisions and headlines fuel for the fire, surely that would be obvious."
by minni_the_minx on Thu Sep 14, 06 1:13am

Well Minni, your question can be answered by use of common sense and logic once again.

Firstly, is not the entire Democratic party of the US the biggest opposition to Bush and his Republicans? Ask yourself this; Why is it that the largest organized political adversary to the current government, not putting forth a well documented and detailed report that accuses the Bush government of organizing and carrying out the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Wouldn't the largest organized opposition group against the Republicans be trying to discredit Bush so strongly and loudly if they thought these silly allegations were true, even a little, so they could seize power for themselves?

Secondly, the nonsense conspiracy of Alex Jones is claiming the government pulled off an amazing incredible scheme that was so well organized, that it must have made use of the thousands of greatest and most intelligent covert geniuses on the planet. People so smart, yet so dangerous, that they could kill thousands before your eyes, make hundreds more magically disappear, plant tons of explosive devices all through the WTC undetected, shoot a plane out of the sky in broad daylight, and fool everyone. Any organization willing to do this, and who had the smarts to pull this off would certainly have no problem in killing Alex Jones, and making the death appear natural or as an accident. Foe example, they would't be so stupid as to plant a bomb in his car, or kidnap him. However, they could stage a car accident or introduce a undetectable substance to cause a natural heart attack. Hell, they could have Jones killed by a shark the next time he's swimming at the beach. They could do anything! As long as their is no conclusive proof, who cares what the tinfoil hats think. Those people create conspiracies about anything anyway. Its a hobby.
But the fact is, the government is not going to do any such thing. They have done nothing, and have nothing to hide regarding Jones' silly accusations.

And Lastly, don't forget, the commission that was put together to investigate and explain the 9/11 events, was comprised of both Republicans and Democrats. Their important job was in investigating one the most important events in American history and providing recommendations to defend the U.S. against future terrorist attacks. During the 1 1/2 years that it took to compile the report, not one of the commission's panel ever said he was suspicious about the governments complicity of being directly envolved in the planning of the 9/11 attacks to intentionally kill innocent humans. These commission people had access to every shred of evidence, the scientific data, the documents, the studies, and on top of that all the witnesses and all the scientific experts.

In spite of all this, along comes the greedy, insensitive, immoral, unethical whack-job Alex Jones to say differently, insulting both democrats and republicans, as well as all the victims and their families of 9/11. Why? For $$$$, that's why.

Margaret, here some more analysis of the laughable loosechange...

internetdetectives . biz / case / loose - change

lolloosechange . co . nr /

911myths . com / 911_loose_change_2_guide_1 . doc

{It is simply unsubstantiated conjecture based on a false premise...
by wideheadofknowledge on Thu Sep 14, 06 8:40am}

Rubbish and stop telling lies, you know very well that what we 9/11 sceptics say is supported by quotes, sources, and links.

{here some more analysis of the laughable loosechange..
by wolf_nipple_chips on Thu Sep 14, 06 11:53am}

I've never seen Loose Change.

However, I bet that I can do a very good debunking of that site's attempt to debunk it because I've kept that debate on file. Care to bring up some quotes?

{, the nonsense conspiracy of Alex Jones is claiming the government pulled off an amazing incredible scheme that was so well organized, that it must have made use of the thousands of greatest and most intelligent covert geniuses on the planet.
by Jinn_the_Kafir on Thu Sep 14, 06 10:43am}

More rubbish excuses from Jinn.

It certainly wouldn't need "thousands", probably not even hundreds, and you''ve shown yourself to be in the habit of exaggeration to the level of the ridiculous. I still recall that windowwashers and couriers being involved claim of yours.

If you used some reasonable figure instead of being over the top in your extreme exaggeration all the time, you'd be a lot more believable.

{don't forget, the commission that was put together to investigate and explain the 9/11 events, was comprised of both Republicans and Democrats. ..
by Jinn_the_Kafir on Thu Sep 14, 06 10:43am}

Do you recall what the staff from the commission recently said? That the military LIED to them, and that the Bush Administration deliberately made attempts at obfuscation.

Did you notice that nearly all the members of that commission were linked to the airline industry?

These are hardly circumstances to inspire confidence in their independence.

{Any organization willing to do this, and who had the smarts to pull this off would certainly have no problem in killing Alex Jones, and making the death appear natural or as an accident.
by Jinn_the_Kafir on Thu Sep 14, 06 10:43am}

Being ABLE to do something is not the same thing as being WILLING to take the risk in doing it. How blatantly suspicious would it be if Alex Jones had a sudden fatal accident, and is there any guarantee of 100% success? Of course there'snever a 100% chance of success, and any attempt could backfire.

Your're missing the whole point Lovelynice, but why am i not surprised?

Nobody is going to kill Jones because he's a whack job who loves conpiracy theories as much as money. His theory is not taken seriously by the overwhelming vast majority of humans walking this planet. Even the Democrats ignore him, when their not laughing about him. He has just enough of a cult following of fools to now live himself a very compfortable life. He's laughing at you too, everytime he sits in his hot tub sipping on sparkling wine.

Poor Jinn, flipping out and flinging silly baby insults everywhere because I made a valid point that you couldn't counter.

Also, it's not just "his" idea about a faction in the USA government being behind instigating and performing 9/11.

You tell lies, because the vast majority of people INTERNATIONALLY also think that a criminal faction in the USA government were the instigators and performers of the 9/11 attacks. I can show plenty of polls to support this, as YOU ALREADY KNOW, so why are you pretending otherwise? Unless you (A) want to stick your fingers in your ears and hope it all goes away, OR (B) are paid to keep pushing the same OFFICIAL LIES in defence of these mass murderers - which kind od makes you an accessory to their crimes, doesn't it?

IC_zzz Somebody wake me when something truthful is either said or revealed here.
Poor Jinn, such an immature act.

It doesn't work, Jinn.

"you know very well that what we 9/11 sceptics say is supported by quotes, sources, and links."
by Lovelynice on Thu Sep 14, 06 1:57pm

And all they amount to is spurious conjecture based on a false premise.

Your sources and quotes are either misrepresented, irrelevant or pure lies and the links you provide are to conspiracy websites or newspaper articles that are 5 years old.

There is not one piece of physical evidence that has been brought forward by the theorists - no documents, no video, no bodies, no remains of a missile or small aircraft, no traces of explosives used in demolitions NOTHING.

In essence you are saying that the wealth of evidence in favour of the official story can be discounted (because it's all fake) but we should believe your nothing claims backed up with no real evidence?

{And all they amount to is spurious conjecture based on a false premise.. by widehead ofknowledge on Thu Sep 14, 06 11:11pm}

You can't prove your case with cellphones being able to make those calls, WHICH THEY CAN''T.

You KNOW that there was also NO INFERNO in WTC 7, but just some MINOR fires. Not serious at all, and the damage was MINOR in comparison to the size of the building

WTC 6 had FAR MORE DAMAGE, and other WTC buildings had far worse fires than WTC 1, 2, & 7.

his is what dutch demolition expert Jowenko said when he was asked to study the WTC 7 collapse; "This is controlled demolition”
youtube . com / watch ? v = Uqrn5x2 _ f6Q

Larry Silverstein, ADMITTED on Public Broadcast Television that explosives were used to demolish WTC building #7

Yes, Silverstein, who had conveniently insured these buildings (which had been ordered to be dismantled due to safety hazards) for billions of dollars just weeks before 911, said on public television:
"(The Fire Department) were not sure that they were gonna be able to contain the fire. I said, you know, we´ve had such terrible loss of life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. They made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse"

So even the building owner admits that explosives were used to demolish at least one of the three WTC buildings!

And if planning to demolish WTC 7 had been carefully prepared for weeks, why not the other two?

Besides, it''s a fact that NOBODY has ever successfully simulated the collapses of WTC 1, 2, & 7 without considering controlled demolition, and that means NOBODY. Not NIST, not, NOVA, Dr Eagar, FEMA, MIT, Bazant & Zhou, nor Dr Frank Green, nor anyone else. NOBODY has succeeded; those who have claimed to have done so, have ALWAYS been proven to be LIARS when their mathematical formula were checked.

It''s a FACT, that there was NO INFERNO in either of the WTC twin towers. The temperatures of the fires never went above 360C, and apparently were around 250C, which is well below the 550C at which steel only barely begins to lose it's elasticity. Glass melts at 700C - There are no reports of melting glass at the towers, and the glass in the storeys above the fire didn''t seem to break so the temperature was clearly way below 700C. Of the more than 170 areas examined on 16 perimeter column panels, only three columns had evidence that the steel reached temperatures above 250ºC - Only two core column specimens had sufficient paint remaining to make such an analysis, and their temperatures did not reach 250 ºC. Using metallographic analysis, NIST determined that there was no evidence that any of the samples had reached temperatures above 600 ºC. Kevin Ryan of UL had cited a similar figure (250C).

It''s a FACT that there were hundreds of witnesses to explosions at the WTC buildings, and that their claims are supported by video evidence showing lines of explosions blowing out the floors before the falling debris could reach those floors, and there''s seismic data showing impossibly short tremors revealing the use of explosives in those controlled demolitions.
and NOTHING you have cited has been able to get around that.

{There is not one piece of physical evidence that has been brought forward by the theorists - no documents, no video,
by wideheadofknowledge on Thu Sep 14, 06 11:11pm}

Actually there's HOURS AND HOURS of VIDEO showing showing lines of explosions blowing out the floors before the falling debris could reach those floors, and there's seismic data showing impossibly short tremors revealing the use of explosives in those controlled demolitions.

{ In essence you are saying that the wealth of evidence in favour of the official story ...
by wideheadofknowledge on Thu Sep 14, 06 11:11pm}

WHAT WEALTH OF EVIDENCE???

If there's such a "wealth of evidence" then why is it that NONE OF IT can stand up to any kind of scrutiny?

If there's such a "wealth of evidence" then why is it that NOBODY has ever successfully simulated the collapses of WTC 1, 2, & 7 without considering controlled demolition, and that means NOBODY. Not NIST, not, NOVA, Dr Eagar, FEMA, MIT, Bazant & Zhou, nor Dr Frank Green, nor anyone else. NOBODY has succeeded; those who have claimed to have done so, have ALWAYS been proven to be LIARS when their mathematical formula were checked.

and is there's such a "wealth of evidence" then why is it that YOU can't cite any to prove anything that you say?

"You KNOW that there was also NO INFERNO in WTC 7, but just some MINOR fires. Not serious at all, and the damage was MINOR in comparison to the size of the building"

There is video all over the internet of the smoke pooring out of WTC7, there are pictures of the damage, and there are firefighters quotes describing more extensive damage - they even went so far as to predict a collapse long before WTC7 fell.

As for WTC6, is was a fifth of the height of world trade centre seven. Your claim that it had more fires is rubbish.

Here we see a shot of WTC7, with WTC6 in the foreground(right).

911myths . com / assets / images / 7wtc . jpg

Here is also a video of the top of WTC7, showing more damage and alot more smoke.

911myths . com / news_wtc7_1 . mpg

Another shot of WTC7, with WTC6 in the foreground...

chicouniform . com / Fire / World _ trade _ ct . _ 22 . jpg

And another video showing the smoke pooring out of WTC7

911myths . com / WTC7_Smoke . avi

{There is video all over the internet of the smoke pooring out of WTC7,
by wolf_nipple_chips on Fri Sep 15, 06 4:12am}

Really? Funny how ALL of that grey smoke is really obvious dust from the previous collapse of one of the WTC Twin Towers.

I have photos showing the actual fires on the side where those fires were, and they were SMALL.

Other buildings in the WTC complex had far worse fires, and far worse damage, and BESIDES ALL OF THIS LARRY SILVERSTEIN ADMITTED THAT WTC7 WAS "PULLED"

Oh well, time then to post the photos of WTC 7 then. Sigh....
No lovelynice, you have pictures of the side least effected by the events.

Just look at those videos, you can see the plumes coming directly from the building.

AS I have said already, the other buildings in the WTC complex were far smaller.

No doubt you've ignored the video, so here it is again...

911myths . com / WTC7_Smoke . avi

No, I saw the video ALREADY.

It's not even slightly convincing because all the "alleged smoke" is dust from the other building collapses.

I've posted a photo of the visible fires in WTC 7, and there's NO INFERNO.

Prison Planet.com Kicks Some Neo-Con Rump

Prison Planet.com | September 14 2006

Here are Alex traffic comparisons of Prison Planet.com versus top Neo-Con shill websites over the last two years.

We are clearly kicking some tail.

To clear up some confusion from people who thought the lower the number was, the less traffic received.

The numbers are not the amount of hits.

The lower the number, the higher ranked the website is.

For example Yahoo is ranked number 1 because it gets the most traffic on the web. Check the Alexa system for yourself.

prisonplanet. com/articles/ september2006/ 140906 kickssome.htm

Yes, and according to time magazine this week, all the visitors to those sites are the same tinfoil hats repeatedly visiting for copying and pasting the ready-made objections and answers for their futile debates on other site forums.
Time magazine is republican neocon toilet paper and has been since it's inception - so who gives a shit what that has to say, couldn't expect anything less from you or it.
{es, and according to time magazine
by Jinn_the_Kafir on Fri Sep 15, 06 9:55pm}

Which isn't worth the paper it's printed as far as credibility or truth are conerned.

Weren't they one of those that kept repeating the LIES about WMDs in Iraq?

I would just like to say that in the video of the wtc7 collapse that the conspiracy theorists constantly use (the one showing the side with the least amount of damage) you can clearly see huge volumes of smoke pouring out of the other side of the building (to the left).

911research. com / wtc / evidence / videos / docs / wtc7 _ collapse2. mpg

This view from west broadway is even clearer - showing the smoke in full view as it collapses:

911research. com / wtc / evidence / videos / docs / wtc7 _ collapse. mpg

"The biggest decision we had to make was to clear the area and create a collapse zone around the severely damaged building. A number of fire officers and companies assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that the building's integrity was in serious doubt."
Daniel Nigro, FDNY Fire Chief.

Now ask yourself - why is it we cannot trust this Fire Chief's comments but are lead to believe that untrained, non-specialists are the people to listen to?

Check my user page for the full links - just in case it's too much hassle to remove the spaces!
Alex Jones: Most Police, Firefighters Now Believe 9/11 Inside Job
Truth events at ground zero enjoy very encouraging reception

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | September 11 2006
Documentary film maker and radio host Alex Jones, coordinating today's 9/11 truth movement events in downtown New York City, says that the atmosphere around ground zero has dramatically changed, with the majority of firefighters and police officers now sympathetic to the claim that 9/11 was an inside job.

Alex is featured at the end of the Associated Press video above imploring viewers to understand that 9/11 was "a self-inflicted wound designed to create a police state in the U.S. and capture us as an engine for world government and world domination."

Alex was assigned to lead a protest march today which he described as over 1000 strong as it snaked across ground zero and through lower Manhattan.
Saying that the "entire atmosphere had changed,"

Alex explained how police support for protesters at ground zero had gone from 20% support two years ago to around 60% support now - with many willing to affirm that sentiment on camera and many knowledgeable about Alex Jones' work and the 9/11 truth movement.

"Police just saying 'keep your investigation going, we appreciate you' on video," said Jones.

"The firemen we've been talking to - a hundred per cent are on our side and have seen the documentary films....it is just incredible what's happened at the grass roots."
Jones said that the few debunkers who were spewing Bush administration style propaganda were met with distain from the police.

"I think that thing that triggered it was the fact that the government lied about the dust, the asbestos all of it," said Jones in citing why first responders and police have become increasingly skeptical about anything the government says about 9/11.

Alex later commenced a vocal bullhorning of ground zero and led a chant of "9/11 was an inside job," more on that to come tomorrow.

A benchmark of the wildfire success of the 9/11 truth movement can be measured with a new CNN poll released today that shows the amount of American citizens who "blame the Bush administration for the September 11, 2001, attacks," has risen from a third to over a half over the past four years.


Alex explained how police support for protesters at ground zero had gone from 20% support two years ago to around 60% support now - with many willing to affirm that sentiment on camera and many knowledgeable about Alex Jones' work and the 9/11 truth movement.
Is that including the same firemen whose words are ripped from context in the "Loose Change" video?

You know, the ones who DO NOT endorse the conspiracy theories?

When your key witnesses don't even agree with you - you're in serious trouble.

And if Jones is so clever at uncovering his web of global conspiracies when hasn't anyone silenced him yet?

Hmm, I wonder.

'Documentary film maker and radio host Alex Jones, coordinating today's 9/11 truth movement events in downtown New York City, says that the atmosphere around ground zero has dramatically changed, with the majority of firefighters and police officers now sympathetic to the claim that 9/11 was an inside job....'


Deal with it (o:

Alex Jones can claim whatever he wants - it doesn't make it true but it sure makes him a lot of money.


Voted : Yes
Jones is not necessarily a liar, he could be stupid or mentally disturbed or a world champion bigot. Killing him would raise questions. People might start to wonder if he was on to something after all. Keeping a mad fool alive is sometimes the better than quietly bumping him off.
Voted : Yes
He's got propaganda organs at his disposal that tens of thosuands of individuals believe blindly. Why NOT cash in on the ever-growing Internet-based nutcase community? The guy controls several media organizations, meaning that he has the power to edit the living fuck out of every piece of information emnating from them, and most people, moonbat or not, consider an afternoon of serious research to be akin to ten years of forced labor. I've seen InformationClearingHouse flat-out make up pie-in-the-sky stories about Israeli bombers devestating parts of New Jersey, so what makes this guy any more trustworthy? He's just another InfoWHORE, if you ask me.
Alex Jones and PrisonPlanet are proven liars, and you people are falling for it.
Hey..why don't you do some research then yourself? On maybe....PNAC and their plans (where they talk about how they need a "new pearl harbor", the history of u.s. sponsored terrorism, bush' attempts and success at changing the constition, the 2.3 trillion missing from the pentagon mentioned by rummsfeld on 9/10/2001, the additional trillion missing a couple of yrs later. No investigation, or answeres? WTF! the federal reserve, no real investigation of 911..and all the unanswered questions. Why won't the administration answer them? What about the consistant lies from the entire adminstration (there are dozens of them caught lying on tape). Why did it take over a year for a 911 investigation?..and why was less money given for it, than for the bill clinton cock sucking investigation. Also check out the david rockefellar quote from his book (page 405 i believe)..just google those words. The media is controlled and owned by like 5 companies. If they killed alex, then too many people would uprise. He does have a huge fanbase. He has publicly said he would never commit suicide. Why do you people assume that asking questions is wrong? You immediatly label skeptism of govt as crazy conspiracy thinking. There is a bunch of evidence that is backed up with facts. You are just too lazy and brainwashed to research it! And what makes us americans trust our govt so much. There has yet to be a non-corrupt government in the history of mankind. They all fail and fall. That's why people like alex jones stand up for the constitution. I know i am all over the place here...I don't have the time to revise..please do your own investigation. please
I investigated and scrutinized the 9/11 commission report and found it to be professional, sound, honest, and well researched scientifically, leaving no stone unturned. I was myself a witness to the events of 9/11. I am also well informed on the ideologies of Islam. I used common sense, rational thinking, logic and reasoning and my brain to conclude my findings. There is absolutely NO reason to conclude any other understanding of what happened on 9/11.

As a matter of interest and curiosity I have researched the theories of the tinfoil hat conspiracy brigade thoroughly and using all the criteria of thinking as I pointed out above, I conluded beyond a doubt that the conspiracy theorists are liars, fear mongerers, ridiculous, absurd, mentally unbalanced, reality phobic, and found that most are pricks, assholes, anarchists, anti-American, anti-Bush jerks...but they are amusing.

easy to see that Jinn is vote spamming his own ballot again
Yes, false assumptions and mistaken beliefs are the common traits of tinfoil hat quacks. Oh, and of course there is the attitude of bitterness and sour-grapes that these losers have.
some things i think he is right about, a lot of it is nonsense
Voted : No
He's absolutely right, not a liar. To think that the American government didnt participate in the 9/11 attack is naive. When will Americans wake up? Your government is corrupt....and has been for a long time. I give them credit though, they're extremely smart, masters of disception or just evil. Fahrenhait 9/11 and Loose Change are good starting points but there are other documentaries as well that really make you think. Remember this, the bigger the lie, the more believable it is- who said this? Adolf Hitler. Who did business with Adolf Hitler- Prescott Bush. This is where the immorality and unethical acts of todays American government stems from. Think outside the box people. 9/11 and the "War on Terror" is all business. The super powers are out to make some serious cash at the peoples expense and establish global domination at the same time. Its very hard to comprehend or maybe you're just to proud, but if you do enough research, get the facts, connect the dots, and think big, your perspective will change.
Conspiracy theorys by definition have not yet been proven or disproven.
Did FDR allow Japan to attack Pearl Harbor?

Wow, now it's to using guest users to make comments so you can go and approve them. Pathetic.
Jones is a Zionist shill. Like most 9-11 "truth seekers", his job is to deflect attention away from Israeli involvement.
Voted : Alex uses his profits to expose Jinn's oil and war profiteering masters ~FACT
It sure is funny who's being scrutinized for making money after 9/11! Alex gives away many of his DVDs and encourages people to burn copies and give them away. So Bush, Gulianni, the boys at Haliburton and the rest haven't made money off of 9/11? Have anything to say about that?! I suppose Alex needs to live in a mud hut if in order to comment on 9/11?
Am I the only one here who noticed the similarities between Maddox's article on loose change and the article written above?
Alex Jones is, and always has been, a zionist gatekeeper. He tries everything possible to keep the blame away from Israel, MOSSAD, and his Zionist buddies. That's why he tries so hard to put the blame for 9/11 on the USA's government and military and CIA, because he knows that the real perpetrators of 9/11 were based in Israel. The high ups in the USA government, military, NSA, FBI, and CIA knew this within days; they deported thousands of Israeli "fake art students" and other suspected Israeli agents after 9/11. They won't openly put the blame on Israel, just as they avoided doing anything against Israel after the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty. It was Israel behind the USS Cole attack too. Israel is the true enemy of the USA, but with all those Israel Firsters in the government of the USA, the country has been effectively taken over by a foreign power. Congress puts the interests of Zionists and Israel before that of the American people. You see it every day. Americans get killed by Israel, and the government of the USA does absolutely NOTHING about it every time.





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