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Would you support a bill legalizing Marijuana, free to grow, smoke and sell?

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Another point is that if marijuana were legalized then any truth in Antidote's arguement becomes moot as far as marijuana's conceerned. Railing addiction and supporting terrorism, and condemning marijuana users is incredulous. The ballot is about legalizing pot, not how pot is inclusive of every other illicit drug.

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Submitted on : Feb 15,2012 10:09:10 pm

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NO! Illegal Drug users are active supporters of Organized Crime and Terrorist Organizations which are FUNDED by the their CONTINUED use and purchase of Illegal Drug!

Illegal Drugs users have Blood On The Hands. They alone created the Drug Cartels and bear FULL responsibility for all their Murder, Bombings, Crime and Corruption over the last 45 years.

YOU the USERS made this ALL possible.

The Drug Laws and the Government didn't FORCE any of these people, purchase and become additicted to Illegal Drugs. You CHOSE to do it.

Blaming the Laws and Government is a Juvenilie way to justify their own knowlingly stupid and criminal behavior. Is it the Government's fault when you get a speeding ticket too?

The Drug Problem is you JERKS would just stop using illegal drugs.

The is not justifiable reason for you to use them in the first place. Illegal Drug users are like little kids crying because the Government won't let them have their toys to play with.

Grow up and STOP using illegal drugs!


I really only see three ways the drug wars can go.
They will either become legal, stay the same, or a giant war that the world attempts to destroy every single plant on the face of the Earth.

Being legal would be the best method but as long as people decide more with thing's other than true information there will always be a fight.

@TheAntidote Yes Illegal drugs fund negative thing's. Exactly one of the reasons to get some Legal ones up and running.
People will not stop using drugs. That has already been made painfully obvious.

Fivenotes: Based on your argument, I guess we should legalize murder, robbery, rape, assault, stealing, speeding, etc, and every other form of crime because people will not stop breaking the law.

Why limit legalization to just drugs.

The solution to every problem isn't to make everything that was once a wrong, now a right and acceptable.

Voted : I would
Marijuana isn't a drug, it's an herb.
Antedope, Your arguement is typical 1940's "Reefer Madness" propaganda.

It's not up to you to decide what's best for anyone else, let alone pitch inaccurate misleading information as the basis to do so. You obviously have no personal knowledge regarding this subject, what Government controled website did you swipe that arguement from.

Fivenotes points out some very interesting common sense facts. The drug war isn't focusing on marijuana, it's the heroine, methamphetamine and cocaine that qualify to your statement "Illegal Drug users are active supporters of Organized Crime and Terrorist Organizations"

But since anyone can cultivate marijuana the cartel only only dabble in it as a matter of convienence, not his primary interest. There's simply not a significant profit in the market.
Drug cartel are interested in exclusive distribution of substances that they have a monopoly on. Cocaine, Methamphetimine and heroine.

As well, places like Amsterdam where drugs are not illicit, have very little problems with organized crime or hardcore addiction. The fact drugs are illegal is the reason it is so prosperous that draws the attention of organized criminals who go to such extremes.

Show me hard facts to support that illicit drugs support terrorism? And not just some Government website that simply says so. provide cold hard proof from an original source.
My best arguement evidencing the error of your viewpoint would be prohibition of the 20s and 30s. Prohibition created the criminal organizations that people like the Kennedy family and the Rockerfeller's exploited to make their fortunes.
So how is it that the user bears responsibility when history clearly reveals it was the government who created the drug problem?

Voted : I would
I've grown and smoked my own for years now; I buy the seeds from a taxed and regulated company in the Netherlands, they stealth ship them through customs here where my government loses out on sales tax blindly subscribing to and reitering the flawed tenets of the American government's failed war on drugs. I've never robbed, beat, raped or murdered anyone, I have no links to organized crime. TheAntitdote's argument is a baseless tangent designed to fear monger opposition into endorsing his flawed beliefs.

No valid argument exists to support the continued criminalization of marijuana, the rationale behind its initial prohibition was based heavily on the now discredited concept of 'voodoo pharmacology.'

passiveson; Tyical argument dopers make. Oh it not the drug I USE that is the problem, its those OTHER drugs.

I grow my own so that proves users don't contribute to organized crime.

Prohibition is what causes all the crime.

Typical juvenile argument to absolve you and your kind of any responsibility for your actions.

That is the REAL PROBLEM! You people REFUSE to take any responsiblity in this whole matter.

You're like little kids always blaming everything on something or somebody else.

The fact is YOU people use the drugs, YOU people BUY the drugs.

YOU people choose to break the law. YOU are the problem.

There is no justifiable reason for you to use these drugs other than selfishness and addiction.

Excuse me fool, but I am not a marijuana smoker nor do I use any illicit drug. I don't even take asprin, so come down off that high horse and don't go around blindly accusing people of things you know nothing about.

I hold my opinion based on fact, not because someone told me what to think. Now take your irratating little ass and that fat bigotted mouth and fuck off.

Dumb ass little prick!

Antidote, Don't reply repeating the same nonsense again. If you post again let it address my challenge:

Show me hard facts to support that illicit drugs support terrorism?

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Not that I'm supporting his argument but the taliban has taken advantage of the opium crop in Afghanistan.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/07/09/070709fa_fact_anderson

FARC in Colombia has also capitalized on the cocaine trade. I am however hard pressed to find any terrorist organization which has utilized marijuana as a cash crop. The drug only makes up a small percentage of inventory of most drug cartels as harder drugs are cheaper and faster to manufacture.

Voted : I'm undecided
after reading Emperor Wears no clothes by jack Herer, my view on marijuana smoking changed for good.

Antidote, the legalization of marijuana would solve the problem of terror sponsorship if it happens anywhere. But marijuana is not a product that Taliban exports. It exported only Opium and products when it was ruling. Moreover, more people die every year due to drinking or aspirin than by marijuana.

Mr_Spleen, I cede your point. But the challenge was to Antedope to see if he held his belief based on fact or simply because someone else told him.

If export of opium does sponsor terrorism then couldn't it also include Pharmaceutical companies who make codiene products and morphine? If pharmaceutical companies are inclusive, then so are the pharmacies, doctors and insurance companies who distribute and pay for the products.

Voted : I would
free to smoke, but sold & taxed by the government
by ABC [+]

Another point is that if marijuana were legalized then any truth in Antidote's arguement becomes moot as far as marijuana's conceerned.

Railing addiction and supporting terrorism, and condemning marijuana users is incredulous.

The ballot is about legalizing pot, not how pot is inclusive of every other illicit drug.





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