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No
neither
mixed
Middle Eastern
brown
Black
They were Egyptian
They are the same colour the Egyptians are now
white
Hmm, lesee. They came from Africa.. Tough one,dork
Arab
Olive skin
Filipino
African just like me!
Just look at the statues i see 100% Negros
Khmets, Black people of Black Africa
they were black
black black and more black
History is ready for you to explore it yourself!
MEXICANS
black first/later black,white,and mix race
somali
originally black then became mixed then dissolved
i really dont care they ant no damn indian
Very poor question!!!!
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They were neither black incense of the features assiociated with black, and neither white or Arab incense of their color. I would have to say Ancient Egyptian and Ancient Kushites resembled the most modern day Fellahin,or Ethiopians, or Somalis, or Southern Yemenis, or even the unmixed Masais and Tutsis. Their Skin was black to brown yellow but their features weren't negroid.

entered by : Yassin
Submitted on : Feb 11,2004 4:50:51 pm

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We R all humans no matter what color we r


I would have to say black. Egypt is in Africa and people who live in Africa are black. Ancient Egyptian properly related to Somalians, Ethiopians, Eritrean, Beja people in North Sudan.
Si, Senor..Siiiii!
Black or White whatever, Like I said History is waiting for you to explore it. RESEARCH it if you really want to know.
They would be classified as black by AMerican Classification.America classifies Halle Barry, Beyonce, than how could they say Ancient Egyptians who properly where way darker than these Afro American where White.I think Ancient Egyptians where related to the Cushite speaking people of Horn of Africa, they properly resembled them more than anybody.
someone tell me otherwise please
Tell me, 51e2a. Does it hurt to be that stupid? Seems to me that the outside air pressure acting on the vacuum inside your head would result in a constant migraine. :-)
Greeks do not carry things on their heads. Greeks carry things inside their heads. look up world's history.
Facial reconstruction can be used in a court of law like DNA evidence. The Discovery Channel got a team of scientists to reconstruct the face of a mummy believed to be Queen Nefertti. Goto to the Discovery Channel website and type the face revealed in the search bar.Don't be scared!
They were neither black incense of the features assiociated with black, and neither white or Arab incense of their color. I would have to say Ancient Egyptian and Ancient Kushites resembled the most modern day Fellahin,or Ethiopians, or Somalis, or Southern Yemenis, or even the unmixed Masais and Tutsis.

Their Skin was black to brown yellow but their features weren't negroid.

locc Since when did the Ethiopians,Eritreans and Somalis mix with white? And how could you say minor mixing 1000's changed the residence of Horn of African, when Rendile never mixed with Foreigners look the same as they did 1000's of years ago.
Locc,Fact: Egyptians and Kushite were black like the modern day Horn of Africans. Physically the way the Egyptian Pharoes pictured themself looks alot similar to the modern day Somalis and Afers. Nertiti's bust and facial reconstruction looks alot like the Somali supermodel Iman.Iman has zero negroid features but she has a very lanky dark brown skine.

Black is not always negroid.

How people that saw them descriped them.

Apollodorus, the Greek philosopher, described Egypt as
"the country of the black-footed ones"


The Latin historian Ammianus Marcellinus said
"the men of Egypt are mostly brown or black with a skinny desiccated look."

The Greek historian Herodotus, for example, described the Colchians of the Black Sea shores as "Egyptians by race" and pointed out they had "black skins and kinky hair."

I don't believe Egypt and Kush ever had the West African or entral African features.

whites stop trying to steal africans accomplishment and culture!
Egyptians...white? No way! If you put a cracker in that African sun for 5 minutes his skin would peel and burn.Besides WHITES could'nt have built the pyramids they were too busy fingerpainting cave walls in France,plus it wasn,t built with slave labor.Whites aint never built shit themselves.Hell blacks built all u see and wish for .Finally,if you dress a white man or woman in Egyptian attire it's a pathetic and ludacris sight.Put the same attire on a black man or woman and it becomes a sight of pure beauty and grace.Egyptian culture contains a spiritual depth. whites only know about heddonism.
i thought whites would have been happy running out or living with wild animals in caves. carrying clubs and dragging their women by their hair to rape(mate )with them. not to mention walking on all fours and eating each other.
whites can go on wishing and praying ancient egyptians where white. whites wont rest until they ;'try' to claim all for their greedy selves.

whites stop trying to steal africans accomplishment and culture!
Egyptians...white? No way! If you put a cracker in that African sun for 5 minutes his skin would peel and burn.Besides WHITES could'nt have built the pyramids they were too busy fingerpainting cave walls in France,plus it wasn,t built with slave labor.Whites aint never built shit themselves.Hell blacks built all u see and wish for .Finally,if you dress a white man or woman in Egyptian attire it's a pathetic and ludacris sight.Put the same attire on a black man or woman and it becomes a sight of pure beauty and grace.Egyptian culture contains a spiritual depth. whites only know about heddonism.
i thought whites would have been happy running out or living with wild animals in caves. carrying clubs and dragging their women by their hair to rape(mate )with them. not to mention walking on all fours and eating each other.
whites can go on wishing and praying ancient egyptians where white. whites wont rest until they ;'try' to claim all for their greedy selves.,

brown, very nice tan
Folks - read some history books. The information is all there. The closest answer is that they were "middle eastern". But don't believe me - I'm some guy spouting off on the internet. Read some books by professional historians with jobs in and credentials from respected academic institutions.
Egyptians much like the present day and Ancient Kushitic people never had negroid features like the West Africans, or the Bantus. Arabs actually brought alot slaves from upper Nubia and the rest of Africa to Egypt. SO without Arabs Egypt would have been even whiter than they are today.
What is that

The only people that speak the Kushitic language in Sudan and southern Egypt are the Bejas. Nubians like Afro Americans even the mixed ones have negroid features, but kushits who have never mixed might be dark as hell, but they just don't have the Negroid features.

truth Nubians of Today like I said before don't speak the Kushitic language. Bejas on the other hand speak the kushitic language and physically resemble the Kushitic speaking people. Know I'm not saying they weren't black, all I'm saying is that African contenant has diverse people. Kushits,puntites and Egyptians were all blacks, but they didn't have the physical characteristic of southern Nubians.
Taharaq my point is being black does not necessarly mean having negroid features.
Taharaq I agree with you 100%. "X" Afrocentrics who believe Egyptians looked like Bantus is as ridiculous as Eurocentrics who believe Pharose were blond haired blued white people. "X" Not all Africans look a like and not all Africans are black.
"X" do you even know where the Word African comes from and who it was used to descripe first? "X" I think you are the one who is rascist for excepting the Afrocentric version of history. The Afrocentric like the Eurocentric see thing in history as being black or white, which itself is wrong."X" you don't know but you say Ancient Egyptians were bantus looking, you give more credibility to the white Egyptologest who believe they were Med and Asiatic looking. I looked at the paintings of the Ancient Egytpians and I don't see anything remotely resembling the bantus. But they also don't resemble the Med and Asiatic, who they descriped in the Seti wall as being much lighter than them.So the only people they could have resembled are the present day Cushitic speakers who look different from the Bantus and the West African.
LOCC what am I supposed go by, the words of Afro American who properly has never seen Africa, specially North or East Africa.If you knew Africa specially North Africa you properly would have known Ethnic group called Berbers. The word Africa was first used to descripe this Arab looking people who have occuppayed North Africa for over 10000 years. LOCC I didn't twist anything, but the people you get your information the Afrocentric Historians twist history around. They turn the world into black or White thing, either you are white or you are black. But LOCC what about the people who don't fall into black and white racial category, like the Berbers, Arabs, Mongulians, and Persians. What about people who share same lineage except one is identified as black and the other as white.
"blacks were the first peolpe in north africa,not just egypt.the white berbers you see today are invaders.they do not belong there,and thier so-called mixed raced berber allies" For you to call anybody invaders is silly. An Arab is more African than you,An Arab has know lived in Africa for more than 2000 years. Nut you have never even seen or let alone lived in Africa.Berbers were the first people to be called Africans, know you saying they are white invaders and what made them white, because of their light skine.
The Hamitic subfamily is generally considered to include ancient Egyptian (see Egyptian language) and its descendant, Coptic; the Berber languages; and the Cushitic languages. Ancient Egyptian and Coptic are extinct. Some linguists also place the Chad languages within the Hamitic subfamily. Those Hamitic tongues are or were spoken in N Africa, much of the Sahara, the Horn of E Africa, and parts of central and W Africa. They were named after Ham, the second son of the biblical Noah, whose descendants supposedly were the original speakers of the Hamitic languages.The Berber languages are the mother tongues of more than 10 million persons in N Africa. The oldest known Berber inscriptions are from the 4th cent. B.C., but Berber-speaking peoples have lived in N Africa since c.3000 B.C., and Berber names appear in ancient Egyptian inscriptions from the Old Kingdom. The Berber tongues have survived Phoenician, Roman, and Arab conquests. Today they are spoken in Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya, Egypt, Mauritania, Chad, and Niger. Many Berbers are bilingual, speaking also Arabic. The modern Berber variants include Tamazight, Tachelhit, Kabyle, Chaouia, Tamachek, Rif, Siwi, Zenaga, and others. Grammatically, gender and number are indicated by prefixes and suffixes. The vocabulary has been enriched by borrowings from Latin, Arabic, French, and Spanish. The Arabic alphabet is employed, except in the case of the Tamazight and Tamachek dialects, which continues to use an ancient Berber alphabet known as Tifinagh.
The name Cushitic is derived from Cush, a son of Ham. The two principal Cushitic languages are Oromo, the tongue of 20 million people in Ethiopia and Kenya, and Somali, spoken by 9 million people in Somalia, Ethiopia, and Djibouti. Among the many other Cushitic languages are Saho-Afar, Agau, Beja, Burji, Geleba, Gimira, Janjero, Konso, Kaffa, Maji, and Sidamo. Oromo is written in the Ethiopic script (see discussion of writing below); Somali, in the Roman alphabet.
The Hausa and Fulani(Mix of berbers and west African blacks) are the only two ethnic groups who speak the Afro-Asiatic language in West and West Central Africa. The Hausa like the Touregs are known to intermarry with their black slaves. So they resemble more like the West Africans than the Majority of Afro Asiatic Speakers.
LOCC Arabs are more African than you. Over 50 million of them were born in the contenant of Africa, and have roots extending as way back as 2000 years. I think Arabs not wanting to be called Africans has alot to do with the negative image Western Media betrays of Africa and Modern day western perception someone African looking like Bantu or Western African. The people responsible for this perception none other than European imperlist and Afrocentric who see Africa as race rather than contenant that has diverse group of people living in it. Afrocentric have even turned the muslim moors to exclusively black, and they made Hannibal Barca a West African Warrior. Its amazing how Afrocentric and its European conterpart Eurocentric have corrupted history, to advance their own benefits. LOCC if you don't believe in Ham, than you don't believe in the existance of prophet Noah(PBUH), which tells me you don't believe in the existance of God.Hamites just like Semits are group of people who have close linguistic,cultural and all of them could be traced to one lineage.
Most Oromo that you properly saw in that wedding albume were properly from the Western part of Ethiopia. Oromos and Sidamo from West Ethiopia near the Ugandan border do look alot like the Africans they live beside, simply because they intermarried with them. The Oromas who live in North Kenya/South Ethiopia look alot like the Somalis they live beside. Same think could be said about the Somalis from south Somalia who live beside and intermarry with their ex-slaves the bantus. Sam thing could also be said about the Touregs known to have intermarried with their slaves. Same thing could also be said about Brazilians, Afro Americans, Cubans, Puerto Ricans,etc. The Oromas I know from the school and Mosque look alot like their cousins the Afer,Somalis and Bejas.
I live in Montreal know, but I ws born in Gafsa, Tunisia. I have been to Aswan and Cairo Egypt, Rabat Morroco, Tripoli Libya, Aden Yemen, Jeeda Saud Arabia, Berbera Somali and Addis Ababa Ethiopia. Those countries are all in the region we are talking about. I hope to visite Sudan and Algeria inshallah sometime in the future.
"i guess i do not believe in you god of the muslims" Are you really that ignorant to believe Islam is an Arab religion and if its than how come Islam is the largest religion in Africa. Arabs have done more harm than Europe? without Arab Influence there wouldn't be any Timbaktu, or Mali or Songhay Kigndom. Without Arab Influence there wouldn't be any Moors, or Adal Kingdom. Without Arab influence trade to India, Persia, Turky, China, Indonecia would have never occurred. Without Arabs risking their lives to spread Islam more than half of Africa would have been Pagan. Arabs are no more eviler than the African chiefs who sold their own into slavery, you should be mad at them instead of Arabs or European. What is my agenda? I have always said Egyptians were dark people closely related to the present day Upper Egyptians and Cushitic speakers.But you have this idea to be black you have to look like bantu or West African. "arabs have thier own agenda and do not care about blacks in africa" Arabs converted and married their slaves if they had any feelings for them. Whites they only used them for sex, gods only know how children a white slave owner might have fathered. Why are you only blaming Arabs for slavery in Africa, the Asantees in West Africa sold and owned more black slaves than anyother people. The Ancient Egyptiasn you love soo much enslaved the Nubians( Dinkas, Nuar) and also the Kushtic war prisoners. Why blame the only ethnic group who made trade to Africa possible. You demonized the only native North African people the Berbers, but embrace the Copts who are descendants of Romans and Greeks. you think the arabs were any different."arabs have thier own agenda and do not care about blacks in africa" Arabs don't even like each other.You need to understand the culture before you judge the people. If I judge Africans as canibals, you would properly immediatly call me rascist, but you have judged Arabs, you have called the Native berbers white invaders, you have called the cushits Mullatos. You have offended soo many people, but yet you call me rascist for only saying Egyptians were not Bantu looking. LOCC You shouldn't ask me who is going to hell or heaven, I'm not God. I'm only responsible for myself, my family, my people and anybody who wants to listen what I have to say.Pagans,Athiest, anybody who associates god with a partner will answer to God on the day Judgement.There are things man could do and there things man cannot do, you have to use use your logic. God gave you the ability to think for yourself, you have right to choice believe in African Paganism. Simple question have you ever been to East Africa, or how many Cushtic speakers have you seen? Cushitic speaker do not look like the typical Bantu or West African. LOCC please be my guest and go tell Somalis, Fulanis, Hausas,Touregs, Wolof, Mandinkas, Harratin, Songhay, Oroma, Afers, Saho, Beja,Nubians and Berbers to give Islam. LOCC you wouldn't even be alife to finnish what you have to say. Islam is part of Africa and part of history of Africa. Without African Muslims like the Fulanis,Touregs, Hausas Islam would have never spread to West Africa. Arabs never went to the west of Morroco. LOCC you rascist to anyone who does not look like you, or anyone who does not look like a west African, You have soo much for people you never met. you are the satans little helper....
LOCC you are right Timbaktu was founded by Berber Touregs, but they recieved their knowledge from the Arab schoolers of Spain and Baghdad, who at that time had some of the best teachers in the World. People came great distance to learn from this great schoolers. LOCC my Ghanian friend told me about Asantees selling their own to the white man, I didn't make it up and I didn't read it in a text book. LOCC most likely your brothers sold you rather than white man catching you in the jungle.Why should Northeast Africa ever regret Islam, when it flourished under Islam for 900 hunder years. For Exapmle Somalia Coast was one of the richest in Africa and properly the World for a period 700 years. Somalis unlike the other African evaded slavery from the white man and Arabs simply becasue they had pride, intelligence, and loyalty that other Africans who sold their own didn't have. Don't be mad at the North Africans or East Africans or the the Arabs, be mad at your own people who sold your ancesters to slavery. Why do you expect Arabs or the white man to care about you when so called brother of yours sells owns his own brothers.
LOCC You are Afro American you shouldn't even be talking about other people being brainwashed. LOCC You don't know where your ancesters come from, you don't know what tribe they belonged to, Your last name belonges to the man who owned your ancesters. on the other hand the people you say are brainwashed know who they are, know their tribes, now were they come from, know their family tree going back to as far 40 generations. SO who is the brainwashed, you who don't know where you come from , who you are , what tribe you belong to, or they?
LO I have no problem seeing Afro American actors playing Nubians or Ancient Egyptians. Its better than seeing blue eyed, pale skinned actor betraying Egyptian.
Black African??? Well not all BLack Africans look alike, so which group do you mean? You mean the Kushits or Berbers or Nilotics or the Bantus..
dang there are lots of stupid people out there.

blacks are portrayed in egyptian glyphs, paintings and statues but their hair is like black people's hair--kinky or nappy or whatever it's called BUT the majority of the depictions are of a reddish skinned people (read as bronzed, brown, arab-ish, dark tan) AND were portrayed with straight hair...yes the upper classes sometimes wore wigs but not always and the facial features (and skin color) are different than those of the 'nubians' who were there in some numbers but were a small minority. and i'm sorry you nubians out there but many of them were there as slaves or hired servants.
nubius was an egyptian god who was black but he was a god with a man's body and the head of a jackel. the god of the dead i think...?

p.s. slaves did not build the pyrimids.

i'd like to add. it seems black americans take this very personally but history is history. some comments insinuate that whites would like to claim the ancient egyptians but that is just not true either...well maybe for a few loonies...but like several have stated they are the same race as is there now..
if they were black why build the pyramids and then leave town, why make so many hundreds of paintings showing the pharohs, servants, fishermen, farmers as a race that was not them? if the painters and the persons instructing the painters were black why portry EVERYBODY as brown?

"yes i agree that most ancient egyptians were black with black features,not arab.the nubian kingdoms had egyptian, arab,greek,roman, libyan slaves or servents as well and others.most of the black ancient egyptians had brown and dark brown skin tones as well as lighter and darker or blackish skin tone."

I disagree that they had typical west African or Bantu features. Take a look at all the statues of the Pharoes, none of them have the features you say they had. I agree with you on their skin color varying from dark to ligh brown, reddish brown.
Most people in here are comparing Ancient Egyptian physical look to west africans or bantus, which is the same as Europeans comparing the Egyptians physical look to pale skined white European.
Pysically the people closest to Ancient Egyptians depicted on the wall of pharoes tombs are North eastern Africans mixed with Berbers, and later the hebrews and Arabs.

this is a big argument especially at a lot of colleges. I tend to believe they were neither, they were really middle eastern or basically the way egyptians look now. The thing is a lot of black people get offended when this is questioned but it's not that serious. Black people have a lot of rich cultures so they shouldn't get offended about this.
They weren't black or white. All humans came from Africa but that doesn't mean that the people that stayed on the continent are "black". Black Africans are darker then North Africans, who are darker than the Greeks and Italians who are darker than the Germans and so on.

North African (Egyptians, Libyans, Moroccans, etc) are not black or white but are North Africans. Some have features more black like, some have feature that are more white like, but overall they are brownish-olive skin people. Deal with it! =)

They were white. Hotep.
Voted : Black
Its a very easy answer they were black if you look a the pyramids drawing you find that these people were black but the people that now have claim to eygpt don't want you to know this because they will lose their claim to the land and its monumet so they don't want the world to know this
i think they were mixed
Voted : They are the same colour the Egyptians are now
Why does it matter weather eygptians were black or white you wouldn't want anyone commenting on what race you are!!!!!!!!!!! That's so rude you people need to get a life and stop debateing on whether the egyptians were black or white honestly i don't think they are either!
Voted : Black
There were black! Thats the turth everyone knows ths...So just give black people their credit for making the world!
Its true the EGYPTIANS were black! Face it there were in africa and the made all there statues black all there pictures depict a black person...Give black people their credit they made the pyramids and they created the walk...They created jewelry. They created sandals they created the world. I could go on but!...
ah, hello of couse they were black .they may be Arab lookin now cause once anagin once white saw that black had a nice civilization they decided to intermingle and.wel..take over.So thats why now they look mixed and coucaisan.In there paintings there shows themselves as black. they weren't stupid they knew exactly what color they were.And anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong because,...you mean ta tell me that for them to be workin all day out in that sun they were anythings else but black.Black folk get nice'n dark in the sun;white folk get pink and sun burn.You don't see them painting themselves sunburnt...da.and I'm pretty sure they didn't have suntan lotion...SOooo therefor they were black..CASE CLOSED..
Voted : Black
ah, hello of couse they were black .they may be Arab lookin now cause once anagin once white saw that black had a nice civilization they decided to intermingle and.well..take over.So thats why now they look mixed and coucaisan.In there paintings there shows themselves as black. they weren't stupid they knew exactly what color they were.And anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong because,...you mean ta tell me that for them to be workin all day out in that sun they were anythings else but black.Black folk get nice'n dark in the sun;white folk get pink and sun burnt.You don't see them painting themselves sunburnt...daah.I'm pretty sure they didn't have burnsuntan lotion...SOooo therefor they were black..CASE CLOSED...*
Voted : They were Egyptian
Yassin I believe what you say with the expection of maybe one but you made think because in my comment I said that only the whites and arabs stole and intermingled with them.YOU are write about it not just being one race is was several different ones,including some blacks.It am African American myself.But I really don't like to call myself black B-cuz I haven't yet seen a country called black yet on any map.So I really shouldn't call the egyptians black.Also I really don't believe in race because you got coucaisains with big lip and noses,and wooly/afrolike hair and you have so africans with thin noses,fair to light skin(without being mixed),and straight hair.I theres only three true foundation races if you won't to call,name,or identify someone as a specific race and they are Mongoloite(asiains,indans,and only one wiht similar features of the previous listed),Negroite(afrocans and people with the same features),and Coucasoite(Europeans and anyone with most of there features).When it all boddles down were all just human.I mean were've all in this world have been mixed up way to much for this.Race is just a way for people to just specialize themselves,when we all are just people created buy one superior God.thats really all theres to it.so I guess I should really say there were a specific group of humans who were from a great civilization once call Khmet now call Egypt and they have Black to redish-brown skin,slightly lanted eyes,slightly wide noses,and some with bigger lips then others.thats the safest and most accurret way I can say it.
they were Black Africans

Voted : They are the same colour the Egyptians are now
The were black of skin yes, deffinately, i am an Egyptian, i am lighter but i know thats because of years of mixing over time, but when i do go to egypt, i always see people there who are much darker, but they have straight hair like i do, not necessarily african negriod, but really tanned dark. If i stay out in the sun i would look like that. Idians have really dark skin but that doesn't necessarily mean that india was all black negro people. Ive seen the nefretitti thing on discovery, she was dark but not african negro. I do know that after a while we were mixed with other cultures. But black people are genetically much taller, ancient egyptians were very short, rameses the 3rd's body at the museum in egypt was no more that 5 feet tall, so therefore i belive that they were dark but not black like poeple think .
similar to horn africans
I dunno what do the Hieroglyphics show? Take a look at those and find out for yourself.
Voted : mixed
They weren't 'Black'which were considered nubians in those days, enemys to the south of eygpt. If you look at eygptians today they look middle eastern. Plus the statues show smaller facial features, more narrowed noses not as wide as the true Africans. More slender features and the paintings show a lighter brown skin tone not black. And there was also a white skin Queen that rained at one time. Also think of the inbreeding with the jews. The Jews made up most of their slave work force to build the pyramids. I wouldn't be suprised if the Jews didnt have a larger hand in designing the pyramids. But, he that has the power writes the history.
I would say black skinned but not negroid.





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