Protest the decision but continue to support the men and women in the military.
ditto, as tadma stated..
Do research on the situation and then follow your conscience.
protest against the politicians.
Tadema's right. I'm sure there is a good portion of people in Iraq that joined the military after 9/11 thinking they could do their part. It wasn't their fault that their leader had other plans for them.
If you were in a barroom and saw your Brother in a fistfight and were about to jump in and "get his back" but someone said it was completely his fault for the fight in the first place, what do you do? kick the piss out of the other guy and settle what happened with your Brother later??? No shit!
Are you backing up the the leader or the soldiers? Because to me it seems it's the soldiers that are in the "fist fight".
Isn't the leader the same guy that bailed out last time he was expected to help out his brothers in a bar-room brawl?
It is a thin line we walk between protest and sedition/subversion
How do you figure lowerclassbrats?
lcb makes a good point. On one hand, you *totally* disagree with the war. On the other hand, now that some BOZO has already pulled that trigger ... some degree of resistance to the war will "aid and abet" the enemy.
Convenient for the administration who jumped the gun so stupidly, but ... potential for real or perceived repercussions for the country and for the people in the field.
Read the propaganda spewing forth from b and w cocksuckers and those good intelligent people who debunk it
Personally, I am of the mind that if the reasons were so wrong or non-existent, then the country should own up to that, even if it means loss of face. Continuing to try and spin a blatant wrong does no one any good.
I am mindful, however, that this may be seen as outright treason by some.
However, I separate the leaders from the country. The hypothetical war is not for my country's welfare, but for my current leader's aims. When the two are SO divergent, then I believe it becomes more treasonous to fail to hold the leadership to account.
However, the effects on the men and women in the field cannot be forgotten ... they are out there, doing a job. They didn't choose the conflict.
Lack of support for their assigned goals, prior to their being pulled out, has got to have an effect.
And yet ... hwo can you support a war that you *know* is wrong?
lcb hits upon the major facet with which I had been wrestling. It's like *Once you're thrust in, right or wrong, the expectation is you HAVE to support* ... which I have a problem with.
Good point. Can you be anti-Iraq War and pro-military personell?
Some wars are nessessary some aren't. The Iraq War was to remove WMD. Does anyone remember? Well how's that going? "Oh, the war is being fought for a different reason now?" Huh?
I don't remember a time in history when the reason for going to war had changed out of convenience.
Still trying to think of the last time a Western cult
was involved in a war that was an actual genuine war.
Or if there even ever has been
Seems to me that other than that very interesting comment made by a user regarding the actual extent to which the military truly claims "ownership" of a soldier , for the sake of their own sanity and soul they need to either truly believe in what they are doing or do a "Born On The Fourth Of July ".but often only AFTER they come back.The idea they may have lost their legs, friends or loved ones for nothing gives rise to emotions at either end of the spectrum
Rational objective analysis , genuine war or not ,either way appears not to ba actually relevant once the hell gets going
Hey Closet Case I was refering to our country as a whole, that includes ALL of us, or didn't they they teach you about team work in the Girl Scouts???
Babu maybe someone should have told GWB or his dad about teamwork prior to him bailing to the National Guard. LOL!
I couldn't agree more with you Closet! We have a chimp for a President, but, we can do something about it come November 2nd!
Protesting has its function and place, but it must be done tactfully.
The other thing from a " citizen " perspective is stopping it or "bringing the boys back home" .If that were to be successful it would be due to actively NOT supporting it. Many activists are the family members.
I hope suggestions of support dont mean
"i hope you kill them "
SF: Busted. I was hoping to get beyond any specific partisan rankling about Iraq and deal with generalities.